Pac-12 Conference Decides Not to Expand, Will Stay at 12 Teams...For Who Knows How Long
The Pac-12 conference has decided not to expand according to a press release from conference officials. With rumors swirling about Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech joining the conference, Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott released the following statement:
In light of the widespread speculation about potential scenarios for Conference re-alignment, the Pac-12 Presidents and Chancellors have affirmed their decision to remain a 12-team conference. Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott said, "after careful review we have determined that it is in the best interests of our member institutions, student-athletes and fans to remain a 12-team conference. While we have great respect for all of the institutions that have contacted us, and certain expansion proposals were financially attractive, we have a strong conference structure and culture of equality that we are committed to preserve. With new landmark TV agreements and plans to launch our innovative television networks, we are going to focus solely on these great assets, our strong heritage and the bright future in front of us."
First and foremost, on the surface, this a big win for the University of Colorado. Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech potentially joining the conference could negate the benefits of moving from the Big 12 to the Pac 12. A major reason the Buffs switched conferences was to have a presence in California which has fertile recruiting grounds as well as a huge Colorado alumni base. If the Buffs were in an eight team conference with Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, Texas Tech, Arizona, Arizona State and Oklahoma State it would eliminate that California presence as well as put us in a division that has power and financially dominate athletic departments in Oklahoma State, Oklahoma and Texas. Rumors have been swirling that the Buffs could be in a four team pod or the conference would do a zipper format but nothing would be as beneficial as the current format.
Second, after reading the release a few times now, their is no mention of staying at 12 teams for the next five years or ten years so this distraction/rumor mill/discussions may come back every summer which I hate. This expansion talk has turned the attention away from the results on the field to off the field lawsuits, power plays, Texas and the Longhorn Network, Oklahoma demanding resignations, Baylor commissioning "third party polls" and other non athletic noise.
Some people have been tweeting updates from sources that may suggest the Big 12 hopes to negotiate a plan to stay together for five years. This is from John Wilner:
Source: Larry Scott walked away from weekend meeting with Texas knowing that LHN and Pac-12 revenue model could not work. Added revenue that would have come from OU joining league would not offset scheduling and travel issues associated with 14 schools.
Jim Vertuno of the Associated Press is hearing Texas and Oklahoma will negotiate with the Big 12 to stay in the conference for five years:
Big 12 source tells AP
#Texas and OU officials to meet in next few days to negotiate deal that keeps both in league 5 years.
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Great news for CU...for now.
This may be a good cooling off period for college football. Pac 12 is in the driver’s seat with Larry Scott’s deal … until the SEC or Big 10 gets a new ridiculous deal. UT overplayed its hand and threatened every other school with its big money network. Never been more grateful for CU’s move to the Pac than now.
by mightygoldenbuffaloes on Sep 20, 2011 9:57 PM MDT reply actions
so what did we learn?
statesmen – blowing smoke outta their ass
mercury news – larry scott does not have the votes
I’m not sure what I think about this. The only issue is (and especially after the coup that ACC pulled) what other teams are out there who have the population on this side of the mississippi to bring us up to 16 since now it really looks like we are moving to super conferences. OU and UT are the only ones left and they can easily be poached by the ACC/SEC/Big10 now. Where’s that leave the Pac12 in the future? On the other hand…do we have to move to 16 if the others do? Will they out compete us when it comes to contracts now?
The west is growing.
The Pac-12 is HUGE geographically and demographically, and it’s international influence is expanding. That expansion will continue for the foreseeable future. In the long view, schools within the existing Pac-12 footprint will grow to the requisite size. Nevada? Hawaii? UC-San Diego? New Mexico? Maybe even UBC in Vancouver? There are potential candidates scattered all over the map. The University of Utah would’ve been a laughable candidate 20 years ago. But they grew up.
Thank g-d
…Texas joining the conference would have been like some loud, drunk guy jumping into the jacuzzi while everyone else was just chillin’ out
This is the best for the Buffs
Pac-16 may have been more competitive with the SEC and B1G when it came to revenue and national championships. However the PAC-12 is a conference that CU can have success while allowing the fans and student athletes the best atmosphere to compete. CU may have the chance to win the PAC-12 once in a while without having to competely overhaul the culture in Boulder. I hope the conference stays this way (at least until there is a playoff for the championship.)
Well
I am glad that Larry Scott didn’t do something that would jeopardize the relationships in the conference or how he wants things run.
I hope that this in some way minimizes the superconference thing for at least a couple of years (although who knows what is going to happen with the ACC and SEC additions).
I hope that the Big 12 schools expand and continue to build a strong conference. I just really think it would have been unfair and sucked for them to have to merge with the Big East. I also hope they are able to reaffirm the existing relationships and build on them.
I am also glad I don’t have to have the giant PAC 12 logo on my back removes. jk.
It took all of us working together to fail
Saw that OU will stay in the Big 12, as long as Beebe is removed as commish
Here would be my ideal situation, I know that the super conference is probably 2-3 years away, what I would suggest is if the Pac-12 does expand, they add (gag) Texas and maybe someone like Boise State or BYU (if they wanted to join). I am not a big proponent of a 16 team league, but 14 is managable and doesn’t kill CU for recruiting So. Cal or Texas.
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i wonder if Larry Scott will rudely dismiss comments by CU's leader again
Scott was Beebe-like when he did so. The real leaders of the conference just reined him in with this halt at 12.
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by agulhas78 on Sep 21, 2011 4:22 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I think everyone gets what they want here (except Texas Tech and maybe OU/OSU).
The Pac 12 is in a good position and had no reason to allow the LHN. Texas is in a good position and had no reason to get rid of the LHN, as long as the Pac 12 was unwilling to take OU/OSU alone. Now CU gets to stay in the divisional alignment they prefer and UT gets to stay in the conference they prefer with the LHN. It probably wasn’t coordinated, but the timing of the Pac 12 announcement was perfect for Texas.
I'm just happy they didn't decide to take OU/OSU alone
that would have been so pointless and shitty. OU got rejected bigtime, LOL.
To be honest taking OU and UT would have improved the conference a lot, but I’m satisfied with the Pac-12 especially given our division includes both SoCal schools. The Big12 will stay together now, which is good news but they need to add BYU. Anybody else will be a significant downgrade.
actually
BYU, TCU and Boise or USF. just do it BigXII, its the only way you’ll have interest in your conference.
if they wanna survive
do as you stated and fire beebe. then bring in SMU as well to really give him the eff-u…
Recruiting
I wonder whether CU’s position in the stable Pac-12 vs. the Big 12’s continued instability will play well with recruits & whether CU can expect to see even a slight increase in the quality of players out of TX & Louisiana in the upcoming recruiting cycle.

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