Previewing 2011 - Opponents - Colorado State (Week 3)
Here we are in week three and we face the Rams of Colorado State. They are coming off of consecutive 3-9 seasons and coach Steve Fairchild may very well be on the hot seat. We beat them last year, but not as handily as we should have.
Interesting thing about this game: this is the first time since '06 that we haven't played CSU in the first game of the year. Who did we play before the Rams that year? Oh right...Montana State. Hawk's first loss (of many).
And now, onto the CSU team that we'll be facing off against this season
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Colorado State Rams
It's time for the annual siblings grudge-match between the Colorado universities. While we're not their first opponent, we will be the first big-time team that they face in 2011. They open the season against at UNM which has been one of the worst NCAA teams over the past couple of seasons, and then they too get to play some Bears in week two, only theirs will hail from Greeley. They will be facing a pretty large jump in competition between UNC and our Buffs, so the hope is that we can jump out to an early lead and keep on pounding.
Offense
The Rams lose some of their more productive offensive weapons, though they return Pete Thomas, the (now) sophomore QB that put up some solid numbers last year (not against us, but overall). He completed nearly 65% of his passes on the season, and they are expecting a great year from him; provided they can keep him upright. They ranked 118th in the NCAA in sacks allowed last year, and they return 4 of 5 starters from that line. They will be doing some shuffling, but that may not be enough to keep Pete Thomas from taking a lot of hits again this season. They hope so, but I'm not so sure they'll be able to improve their pass protection enough to allow him to become the star that they all think he will be. There will be only one bright spot on their line, and it's their sophomore center Weston Richberg. He's big and strong and played well at times last season. Give him and Thomas another year or two together and I think something will happen, just not yet. Sure, I think Pete Thomas could eventually be a very good/possibly great college QB, but his line needs to DRAMATICALLY improve for that to happen, not to mention his receivers.
They lose their top target from last season, and only one other WR on the roster caught more than 1 TD last year, and he only netted 2. They've got a whole slew of guys who are competing for the starting spots alongside RB turned WR Lou Greenwood Jr, so we won't know who we'll have to be matching up against until they get their depth chart set. They are going to try to break in a couple of new, gargantuan tight ends (6'6", 6'6", with the runt coming in at 6'5"), and hope that will help to open up the middle of the field, but I don't think we'll have a ton of trouble matching up with these guys, especially because I don't think we're going to give Pete Thomas enough time to get the ball out to them consistently.
In the running game, they seem to be hanging their hopes on a guy who didn't come through for them last year in Raymond Carter. He's the transfer from UCLA that everybody thought would burst onto the scene, but didn't make any noise at all last year. He and Chris Nwoke (who made slightly more noise, but not that much more) are their top two guys, and they should get a bulk of the carries. Nwoke likes to work in between the tackles, while Carter is supposed to be a speedster. This is the Rams version of the thunder and lightning, but I'm not sure we're going to let them show us much of either.
Defense
Here is where the biggest changes have occurred. CSU has officially switched to a 3-4. Yes, I know, everybody's doing it, not that exciting. Also, they won't stick to a 3-4 front 100% of the time because they don't have the depth at linebacker, but they feel that it's the best way to get their most talented defenders on the field. This gives the Buffs a very large advantage. Outside of Nuku Latu on the Nose, they don't have anyone who possess the bulk to really stand up to our offensive line. They have smaller, quicker guys, but I think that will play right into the hands of the smash-mouth type of offense that we are supposedly going to be running this year. Latu is listed at 300 lbs, but we definitely have the bulk up front to handle him, and we now have quick enough feet on the outside with David Bakhtiari and (most likely) Jack Harris to be able to handle the edge in both the running game and in pass protection. Mix that with tight ends like Deehan, Bahr and co. and I think we won't have much trouble holding onto the ball and moving up and down the field. They do have very talented linebackers, but they are small, and there will now be fewer guys in front of them to eat up blockers. While Mychal Sisson and Mike Orakpo are some of the top LBs in the Mountain West Conference, they don't have the size to compete with our offensive line and tight ends, let alone the fullbacks that we have added to our offense. They might be able to use their quickness to frustrate our blockers, but Rodney Stewart and Brian Lockridge are just as quick as they are.
Ivory Herd stays at safety for the Rams, while Elijah-Blu Smith moves to CB. They have solid speed, in their defensive backfield, but no ball hawks and they let a lot of big plays happen. That looks to be the case again this year, which will make it hard for them to stop anybody, let alone an experienced QB like Hansen and targets like Clemons and Richardson. I think their secondary opens up for us this year and we score more points against them than we have in a while.
Special Teams
They are actually solid here, and may better us in this phase of the game. They return a solid kicker and a pretty good punter, plus a couple of pretty good looking kick and punt returners. Their coverage units aren't great, but they tend to come out ahead in the return game. They should continue to be solid here, and their coverage units may be better, but not enough to make up for the other facets of the game against our Buffaloes.
Recap
The Rams have the schedule this year to improve on that pesky 3-9 record they've stuck to of late, but not enough to get them out of the bottom half of their conference. And they have made a few changes, but not enough to keep up with us this year. I don't think Jon Embree and the other former Buffs on staff will let this game fall by the wayside, especially with no Nebraska on the schedule this year. I do think Pete Thomas will eventually become a very good college QB, but maybe not this season. He doesn't have the talent around him yet, but there's a chance that a couple of guys could come through and give Thomas some targets by the end of the year, but not enough to really make CSU competitive in that conference yet.
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right now, we're listed as 9 point dogs for the opener @ Hawaii
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
I figured we would be about 4 point dogs.
If we’re still 9 points when I am in Vegas next weekend a decent amount of money will be placed on that game
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4 seems about right
I try to never bet on CU, but 9 looks awfully enticing. I’ll be interested to see the O/U
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Vegas can't take their eyes off the winless road streak
Since this is our first game under a new coach they have nothing to go off of other than our national rep.
Shoulder to Shoulder
Current CU lines at 5dimes
Hawaii -7 against CU
CU -7 against CSU
USC -10 against CU
Utah -14 against CU
I guessing if the odds makers are right we’ll go 2-11 this year (wins vs. CSU and WSU). Let’s pray they aren’t.
Wonder if that -7 has gone down from -9 or if -9 is just from a different sports book
Shoulder to Shoulder
I'm not sure
but vegasinsider.com lists the odds at the Stratoshpere and all the online places as Hawaii -7 so it’s probably gone down, don’t know where Phil’s number is from.
betonline.com
When I checked this morning, vegasinsider.com didn’t even have lines up. I just checked again, and betonline.com has already dropped to +7
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Maybe I'm crazy
but I actually think we are looking at a decent team this year. Hope springs eternal in August but I would take CU with the points for any of these games. In fact I’ll take CU money line for the USC game.
haha, I was thinking the same thing for the USC game
We’re normally good for one “upset special” each year. Night game, blackout most likely, huge crowd, big name opponent, I like our chances there.
From Husker Fan
Several parting comments:
1. I think Colorado will do better than many of you think. Whatever we think of the Big 12, it was a tough conference. To me, Colorado looks poised to show the west coast some good football.
2. Didn’t you love the Big 12’s issues with the Texas Network? Right now I am so glad that Colorado and Nebraska are out of that mess.
3. Here’s hoping that sometime in the future, we can have a home and home series for old time’s sake. However much you hate Nebraska, you have to admit we had some fun games.
Good luck in your new conference. Show the coast that we know football.
1: I don’t think we know what to think. We have a new coach, new offense, new defense, new conference… and the PAC 12 does play some pretty good football as well
2: Yes. And yes
3: Can we settle for meeting in the Rose Bowl every few years?
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
to husker fan
i’ll go further. i wish you’d let missou go to the big10 and the huskers had come to pac12 with cu. that way the rivalry – at least as its perceived out here – could have grown into one of the best around. cu/nu would have been travel partners, making that rivalry even better, and would have maintained the rivalry weekend game. and, nu would have added a tough competitor to the pac12, which would have been poised to challenge any conference for prominence.
i’ll miss the huskers and the friday-after-thanksgiving games. those were truly special regardless of outcome. now we have utah? sorry, i can’t get up for that one. the future home-and-home should be a staple on our schedules (once we have rid ourselves of the csu curse).
meh
Nebraska was a manufactured rivalry too. McCartney started it, and Nebraska didn’t care until they split into different divisions with Oklahoma (and some fans still don’t think we’re rivals). The day after Thanky G “tradition” didn’t even start until the mid to late 90’s, as I recall.
With Utah, we can still hate red, and we have a natural rivalry with the region because of Nuggets/ Jazz (discounting Alec Burks) and because, for some crazy reason (probably inbreeding), they seem to think they have better skiing. Personally, I can hate anyone. So now I hate Utah (I also hate Nebraska, Texas, and Colorado State. Plus anywhere Rick Neuheisel coaches)
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
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I’m with you on the Neuheisel thing.
nah
I’ll miss the CU/NU games as much as anyone, but I would never want them in the Pac-12. We’re a good fit for the Pac-12, they’re a good fit for the Big 10, it worked out perfectly for both of us. If we can set up a home and home someday (NOT a pay game to go to Lincoln, screw that) then fantastic, but if not I can wait for a Rose Bowl match up sometime down the line, and that would be the biggest game in the history of the world for me.
What’s wrong with the CSU game? I never understand why people want to get rid of that. It’s a fun game and it’s one we should win the vast majority of the time.
I agree on the CSU game
Many football powers have an in state game/rival that is a lesser opponent, they still play the game and it is a great tradition. (Oregon, Oklahoma, Washington, Iowa, Utah, etc.) I understand the idea that if we win, well we should win, we have a bigger budget and stronger pick of recruits. Then win the game, celebrate and give them another chance next year. I would also like us to play Air Force as well.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Aug 6, 2011 3:11 PM MDT reply actions
what husker fan started
its nice to have a discussion on anything buff-related. let me offer some support for my statement about the huskers, all with due respect for other opinions and views.
one, cu & nu have been playing each other regularly since the 1940’s, from the big6 or big7 or whatever. the series was fairly even until devaney started in ’62, then nebraska dominated the series but cu always pointed to the nu and ou games as the most significant on the schedule. mac elevated the game to red letter status in ’82, played them tough and upset them in ’86. it was a big game for both schools since then despite what some husker fans may say.
two, part of mac’s wisdom in lifting a program was to aim at the best. from ‘jeremiah johnson’, " . . . a man’s worth is judged by how mighty his enemies be . . ." . clearly, utah falls way short.
three, washington/wash state, ore/ore state, alabama/auburn, florida/fl state, etc., are on the same level. so there is as much to gain from a win in those circumsances as there is to lose in a loss. such is not the case with cu/csu: cu gains nothing from a win but has a huge downside in a loss. true, this woulnd’t be an issue had cu’s program not degraded over the years. despite relative team strength, csu will always treat that game as the most significant on its schedule which requires the buffs to match the emotional intensity.
four, a better schedule for cu would be something like this: open with a relatively easy game, then have a big name opponent from another bcs conference/region – my pick is nebraska due to the tradition – but others would do well also, e.g., michigan, oklahoma, etc., then another relatively easy game, then the 9-game conference schedule. in my view, no room for csu there but i understand that younger fans that have grown up with the game may enjoy it. in addition, the atmosphere at invesco is a joke, especially looking across the stadium at so many empty seats on the csu side.
five, as to pac12 membership, it is true that the huskers fit better with the big10 and the buffs in the pac. a good intersectional rivalry can be both a means of building and sustaining a program. i believe such intersectional games are necessary to have a nationally respected prominent and respected program. cu has had series with miami, michigan, ohio state, lsu, etc., and win or lose it helps cu. why pick a fight with a lesser school? replacing csu with an intersection team of quality is sound all around.
finally, i know others differ on the huskers, csu, and other issues. i respect your views and submit mine in the spirit of buff fans kicking ideas around.
thanks for reading
p.s. judging from recent posts, Stuart dislikes the csu game, too, for what that’s worth.
to disregard CSU is to disregard economics
I understand what you’re saying, but CSU should be a relatively easy game that you’re looking for in weeks 1 and 3. We should beat them 80% of the time. And there’s not another team in the country that we should beat 80% of the time that will bring in the revenue that CSU will. Period. I agree with you about the other rivalries you mention. This isn’t equal to that. But it’s a nationally televised game in an NFL stadium that we should dominate. If we don’t, then that’s on us.
Just because we’ve been playing Nebraska forever doesn’t make it a rivalry. We’ve been playing Kansas forever, and no one considers that a rivalry. Nebraska NEVER considered us a rival until the Big 12, when Oklahoma moved to the south. Never. And some fans fans and players still don’t. In fact, I would say that we didn’t become true rivals until 2001. Yes, McCartney targeted them because they were on the top of the heap, but so what? Just because it was valuable then doesn’t make it valuable now. If you lock in Nebraska as our tough OOC “rival,” you’re talking about 11 of our 12 games that basically never change (9 conference games, Nebraska, CSU through at least 2020. Just because you don’t like it won’t make it go away), plus a game against a patsy. I don’t like that one bit.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
also, I don't know who Stuart is, so that's not worth much
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
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by Jon Woods on Aug 6, 2011 7:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
oh, yeah. Whitehair or something. MontanaBuff elsewhere
Worth slightly more, but still not much, as I am very stubborn. And right.
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