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SB Nation NCAA Conference Re-Draft - Where Will The Buffs Land

I'm taking most of this post from Peter over at BON because he said it much better than I could...

The SBN college bloggers are set to begin what should be a really fun project re-drafting schools into conferences, using a fantasy-style snake draft. This post will explain the object of the exercise and the rules governing the game.

The idea is not to improve existing conferences through minor tweaks -- like, say, by adding BYU to the Pac-12 and replacing Utah. No, we're starting clean and compiling six conferences by drafting athletics programs sequentially. Because we're ignoring geography and time zone considerations, a conference commissioner might well draft Florida with one pick, and UCLA with the next.

After the jump is a detailed explanation of the game and how the project will be unfolding over the next six weeks. Read through the objectives and rules carefully to make sure you understand how it works, then dive in and let's start what should be a really interesting conversation: What do you value in an athletics program? In a conference? Who would you draft? How will others sites weigh Boulder and our history vs our lack of recent football success?

Read through the drafting rules and remember, the goal is not to improve the status quo. The goal is not to create a conference that will actually play games, so set aside travel and time zone considerations. The goal is to use a draft to value schools and have fun strategically grouping them together.

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Game Objectives: The purposes of the fantasy draft are: (1) to explore the values of individual schools by drafting them sequentially, and (2) to have fun strategically building a conference of schools.

There will be six conferences, and such conferences are NOT meant to be new versions of current conferences. That is, the objective of the game is not to create tweaked versions of what we already have. The goal is to draft schools based on their overall value, and to compile a conference of teams strategically and coherently.

What makes a school valuable? We leave that largely open, with a few important guidelines. First, bearing in mind that we are drafting athletics conferences, athletics should be weighted heaviest, if not exclusively.

While obviously athletics must be considered, the following are factors you may, but are not required to consider:

Academics
Co-eds
Weather/Desirability of Destination
Historic Success
Traditions
TV Revenue Potential
Ethics
Rivalries (two teams)

On the flipside, for purposes of this game there are two factors that are NOT to be considered. First, do not take travel/geographic concerns into consideration. In real life, Washington and Florida are unrealistic conference partners; in our world, that doesn't matter -- neither from a travel nor time zone standpoint. Second, and related, while we may take individual rivalries into consideration (e.g. pairing Michigan and Ohio State), preservation of current conference history/rivalry/alliance is not to be considered. Hopefully for obvious reasons.

Finally, the goal is not to improve the status quo. The goal is not to create a conference that will actually play games. The goal is to use a draft to value schools and have fun strategically grouping them together.

In sum, there is no single way that schools must be valued and/or grouped together. Some may wish to create the best conference of all-around athletics-academics combination. Others may want to create a revenue superpower. There are any number of valid ways to do this. The only limitation is not creating a group that is based on regional and historical ties. Time to wipe the slate clean and start over.

Conference Commissioners: As mentioned above, there will be six conference commissioners: BC Interruption (Boston College blog),  House of Sparky (Arizona State), Big East Coast Bias (Big East), Black Heart Gold Pants (Iowa), Team Speed Kills (SEC) and Red Cup Rebellion (Ole Miss).

An (incredibly) important note: The six conference commissioners will start with a blank slate. BC Interruption, House of Sparky, Black Heart Gold Pants and Red Cup Rebellion will not be starting with Boston College, Arizona State, Iowa or Ole Miss in their conference already. If they want their own schools, they'll have to draft them.

By luck of a random number generator, BC Interruption gets first pick in the draft. The complete draft order is as follows:

1. BC Interruption
2. Black Heart Gold Pants
3. Team Speed Kills
4. Big East Coast Bias
5. House of Sparky
6. Red Cup Rebellion

The draft will be a snake draft, with Red Cup Rebellion receiving the 6th and 7th picks, BC Interruption receiving picks 12 and 13, and so on.

The draft is officially being run by the Oklahoma State Cowboys blog Cowboys Ride For Free, so Samuel will be playing the role of head commissioner.

Schedule: This week, SBN bloggers are introducing the Re-Draft project and want to get the conversation going. We need to start thinking about the following questions:

Who would you want to draft?
What kind of alliances do we seek?
What sort of values are we looking for in a particular program?
What schools would you most want Colorado to be associated with?

On Monday, June 13, the draft begins and the first round selections are made. The conference commissioners will then consult with their first-round draft choice (if we have a blogger for that school) and the two of them will collectively decide on their draft strategy and make their second round choice. By Friday, each conference will have a commissioner, two schools, and up to two more bloggers to collaborate with on picks. By Sunday, each conference will select the name of its conference.

On Monday, June 20, Cowboys Ride For Free will announce the conference names and recap the first two rounds of the draft. We'll have a post here if Colorado is drafted in the first two rounds (I think it could be close, but I think we'll go in one of the next two rounds).

After the big reveal of conference names and founding members, the draft will continue in much the same manner, with two draft picks a week for the next several weeks. Once a conference drafts 12 members, a conference can be capped. If we want, the draft will continue for conferences who wish to add more members. If in any subsequent round only one conference remains, it may select the remaining members of its conference up to a maximum of 16 schools.

Finally, on Monday, July 25, the full and complete conference rosters will be announced and discussed across the SB Nation community of NCAA sites. Hooray.

Other points of note: When selecting a school, you are bringing on all of its NCAA-sanctioned varsity programs. So if you select Notre Dame for its football program, all of the Irish's other sports come along with it. Same for Duke football, etc.

Now it's your turn. What do you value in an athletics program? In a conference? Who would you draft? Who would you love to see paired with the Buffs?

While I know many of us are ecstatic with the schools that we are joining in the Pac-12, do you want all of them? Are there some that you would rather not be in our "new" conference? Let us know what you think, this should be a lot of fun.

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Ok, I'll start

Here are some of the teams I would like to see in a conference with CU:

Nebraska (like the rivalry, tradition)
Utah (like the new rivalry, plus every conference needs a doormat)
Michigan (so we can see the Hail Mary replay every season)
Wisconsin (like the style of football and would love traveling to Madison)
UCLA (not a rivalry per se, but there’s a lot of hate here)
Texas A&M (see UCLA, want to beat them every year)
WVU (they sell beer at the stadium now, therefore they’re in)
Georgia (enjoyed the series with them)
FSU (only Florida program I like at all)
Kansas (every conference needs a doormat, plus I dream of the day when we outnumber their fans in our own arena)
Washington (probably my favorite CFB stadium in the country)

There it is, 12 team conference of greatness

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by Jon Woods on Jun 8, 2011 9:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Not as easy as I thought

Tried to look at sports/academic reputation/location etc….the first 5 were easy, the last 6 not so much

Washington
UCLA
USC
Michigan
Stanford
BYU (new rival)
Virginia Tech
Vanderbilt
Nebraska (rival)
Wisconsin
Penn State

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 9:36 AM MDT reply actions  

I like it

I really wanted to add Penn State but I tried to keep teams that I really like (OU, Zona, PSU) out of it so they wouldn’t have to play each other.

Why Vandy? Academics?

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by Jon Woods on Jun 8, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Needed southern busty blondes

Thought about Ole Miss for trips to The Grove or LSU but finally settled on Vandy for is combination of Nashville location, academics and respectable athletics (outside of football)

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

although this isn't an apples to apples comparison since there's no draft here:

Colorado
Wisconsin
Ole Miss
North Carolina
Kansas
Johns Hopkins
West Virginia
Utah
Georgia
Stanford
Oregon
Ucla

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 4:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I don't want Oregon in our conference

but I love the rest of that.

I feel like for a lot of Cali kids wanting to head out of state, Colorado and Oregon are somewhat comparable and as much as I hate to say it, their facilities and Phil’s money give them a leg up right now.

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by Jon Woods on Jun 8, 2011 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want Oregon

and for the rest of the schools to go to Adidas. Or Fila. Or LA Gear with the blinky ass shit. But Oregon was my second choice school

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sleepers......

Boston College
Northwestern
Minnesota

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 4:47 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm interested as to why those are your sleepers

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to look across the probable late round available choices. Think all three schools bring some value either through academics, academics, strength of alumni/fanbase, and athletics (not necessarily football). Would consider throwing Wake Forest in there too.

FYI, becoming LAskibum come august so you’ll need to point me in the direction of the game watch bars

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

if it's LA, it's Grunion's in Manhattan Beach

congrats!

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

let's go the the Ucla game!

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

but if you got that OC job

It’s some place in Irvine. I’ll have to look it up. but let’s STILL go to the Ucla game!

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't get the OC job

Instead transferring offices for current position which is what I would have done a year ago if I thought they would have gone for it. Office is in Pasadena.

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Other schools I figured would also be in the later rounds to give some perspective

Rutgers, UConn, Washington State, Baylor, Texas Tech, NC State, Indiana, Louisville, Oregon State, Syracuse, Maryland, Kansas State, Iowa State

by NYCskibum on Jun 8, 2011 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Love Northwestern.

Had fun every time I’ve partied there and the campus is gorgeous.

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by Jon Woods on Jun 8, 2011 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve been to two Northwestern games and both were good times (of course they did the old “State school” chant, whatever, more power to them for going to a great school) but the town of Evanston, where NU is located, is not exactly college fun friendly. I had a bunch of friends who went there so i visited a few times during college and then I lived in Chicago for five years so I spent some time there w/ a girlfriend from Evanston. Yes, it’s a nice location and your only a 15-20 minute drive from Chicago but I was underwhelmed by my experiences there as a college town.
You want fun in the Big 10, go to Madison.

by CleBUFFS on Jun 9, 2011 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was under the impression that Evanston was outright hostile to college kids

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 9, 2011 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

The locals are

while there are more in Evanston because of the income level of the locals, every college town has those. Boulder certainly does (albeit not as bad)

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by Jon Woods on Jun 10, 2011 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I once tried to do this for all 120 schools

I tried with conference affiliation based on mascots. So you’d have the all “people” division:
USC, Hawaii, West Virginia, Utah, Florida State, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, San Diego State, et cetera
the all bear division:
Ucla, Cal, Montana…
the all Big Cat division:
LSU, Auburn, Clemson, Kentucky, Memphis, Missouri, Arizona, Penn State
I put CU in the “all Awesome” category
CU, Florida, Wisconsin, Akron, Oregon, UC- Santa Cruz, Michigan, Youngstown State, Stanford (even though the tree is only the mascot of the band, not the mascot of the school)
all of the All-Awesome schools would be required to keep a live mascot on the sideline at all times. Akron would have a bunch of zip ties.

and there were others. I think a bird division, a dog division…. I never finished because A) I have a short attention span and didn’t really care that much B) I substituted liberally among D1 and non D1 schools, and C) Nothing ever fit right, and I kept coming up with new divisions- all smart kids (Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt), all religious (Notre Dame, Boston College, TCU, BYU) without perfect fits or crossovers, and then I got frustrated and went to play Mario Kart

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 4:57 PM MDT reply actions  

like I said

I never finished

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 8, 2011 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

we could have a Big 10 style traveling trophy

It would just be a “true” National Championship trophy

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 9, 2011 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

My List

Boston College
Mizzou
Wisconsin
N Carolina
Virginia
Florida
Ohio State
Cal
Oregon
USC
Washington
Colorado

by CleBUFFS on Jun 9, 2011 6:12 PM MDT reply actions  

I could definitely support this list

I went Ucla over USC for basketball
Mizzou vs Kansas was basically a toss up (I like Lawrence more than Columbia, slightly)
I seriously considered tOSU, and I love the Virginia choice. Should’ve thought of them

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Jun 9, 2011 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

List

Assuming you can only take a few top and mid-tier teams, and need to to take a few lower tier teams, here’s what i come up with:

CU
Nebraska – non-rival
Boise State – paybacks for Hawk are a b1tch
UGA – i think they want paybacks
Washington – similarish school tradition
Tennessee – needed another school, picked from where I was born
UCLA – fun to beat The Weas
ASU – Birds
Stanford – Trees are cool
KU – need a bottom feeder
CSU – every bottom feeder (see above) needs a win
Northwestern – lotsa CU alums in Chitown

by BuffulanceMan on Jun 10, 2011 1:13 PM MDT reply actions  

I like it.

All good places to travel except for Boise and Ft Collins

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by Jon Woods on Jun 11, 2011 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

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