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Discussion Board: Recruiting

Instead of flipping back and forth between threads to talk about recruiting, I thought it might be easier to have an all-in-one message board.

I will keep this list updated as more information becomes available. Thank you Buff'em Up and Jon for starting these conversations (and for providing a prospect list to work with).

As of 11:30 PM Sunday, here is what we know (also thank you to Rivals, Scout and ESPN):

Latest Buzz:

*UPDATED*: DE Samson Kafovalu *** Rivals Scout Commits to CU! This guy looks likes like a man! He's 40! Impressive offer list and highly recruited for a 3 star. Another great get!

DE Kyle Kelly ****/*** Rivals Scout Visited 10/10. Claims Arizona still leads for his signature but is still not 100% solid. CU, Oklahoma, and Arizona will meet with him again Wednesday and he will take his final official visit to Oklahoma this weekend. He will decide next week.

CB Yuri Wright **** Rivals Scout Visited 10/10. According to ESPN, Wright's Facebook status Sunday morning: “Pretty boring night last night out here in colorado headed home in a couple of hours can't wait to get back...” Along with other statements...

New Commitments:

DE Samson Kafovalu *** Rivals Scout

DE John Stuart *** Rivals Committed after an in-home visit 12/5. Additional offers from Fresno State, Nevada, New Mexico State, Utah State, and Washington State

DE Kisma Jagne *** Rivals Scout - Highly recruited for a 3 star. Great get for the Buffs!

DT Josh Tupou ** Rivals Scout Committed after visit on 10/10

RB Donta Abron ** Rivals Committed after visit on 10/10

Prospects Visiting Weekend of 12/17

CB Ryan Lewis ** Scout Apparently favors CU

Star-divide

Prior Commits Visiting Weekend of 12/10:

RB Terrence Crowder Rivals

Additional Prospects (Not Yet Mentioned) Who Visited Weekend of 12/10

TE Trevor Stevens Rivals

ATH Marques Mosley - Offers from CU, Oregon St Rivals

ATH/FB/RB Christian Powell *** Rivals - Multiple offers

Prior Commits Who Visited Weekend of 12/3:

DT Tyler Henington *** Remains solid to CU despite being highly recruited by multiple Pac-12 schools.

RB/FB Clay Norgard ***

WR Gerald Thomas *** - Remains solid on CU commitment.

WR Jeffrey Thomas *** "Blown away" by CU trip. Remains committed.

DE De'Jon Wilson ***

OG Gerrod Kough ** - Came away impressed with CU. Remains committed.

Additional Prospects Who Visited Weekend of 12/3:

OLB Deaysean Rippy **** Rivals Seemed to enjoy his trip to Boulder. Rumors are Colorado is recruiting this guy extremely hard.

CB Kenneth Crawley ****/*** (currently a soft commit to Tennessee) Rivals

OL Steven Moore ***

S Leo Thomas ***

WR/CB Jonavaughn Williams *** For now, remains uncommitted after an in-home visit from Embree on 10/6.

OT Nico Siragusa ***

FB Keith Parker (going into the weekend did not hold an offer from CU)

JC transfer OT Alexandru Ceachir ***/** - Committed to Utah.

JC Trransfer DE Morgan Breslin **

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Look for Jonavaughn Williams to be first commit from this weekend

He has a CU in home visit this Tuesday night. Both him and his father came away very impressed with CU. He has 2 visits left, SDSU and Oregon St, but says he is only tempted to visit SDSU.

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM MST reply actions  

Done.

Time to start seeing results on the recruiting trail. Believe Embo, EB and the staff are up to it but we shall see.

by mam2jd on Dec 5, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Pretty quiet so far

not sure what that means…hopefully we will get a better idea soon.

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 5, 2011 11:46 AM MST reply actions  

It seems like we have some advantages

I think players like to hear that they will get a shot as freshman to play. I think that Embree seems to be very forthright and people trust what he has to say. It also seems like he will play someone as a freshman if they really show they are ready to play as a freshman (see Henderson). Recruits know they can show their abilities and they wont be automatically redshirted unless they just aren’t ready.

I also like the fact that some of our coaching staff have been on NFL teams and have evaluated and taught NFL players. Hopefully that gives them insight when evaluating younger players and they can identify the things that make players great and build on those. You know that recruits have to like that they can learn skills from guys that know what it takes to move onto the next level. Although there are plenty of coaches around who have been involved in the NFL that don’t have success in college (Neuheisel).

I just can’t wait to hear more news.

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

Adam Munsterteiger

“Sounds like four-star cornerback prospect Yuri Wright, from Don Bosco Prep in N.J., will take an official visit to CU this weekend.”

BigXIITDOG time to start adding a 12/10 recruit list

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 5, 2011 1:43 PM MST reply actions  

You can add Kyle Kelly

•DE CA Kyle Kelly **** Ht: 6’3" Wt: 205 http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Kyle-Kelley-124163 He will be visiting next weekend 12/9/11

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 5, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I've been cheating on the RR

Its actually a pretty good source for recruiting updates.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 5, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for doing it DOG!

I finally have something to be excited for during the off-season!

Go Embo! Go Buffs!

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 5, 2011 3:20 PM MST reply actions  

Cliff Harris?

Dismissed from Oregon. Considering our youth at the cb position, worth bringing in? A 2013 cb lineup of Greg Henderson, Cliff Harris and Yuri Wright sounds pretty mean.

by buffs15 on Dec 5, 2011 6:36 PM MST reply actions  

Watched the video where he was pulled over...

Pretty funny and sad…. Sounds like he wasn’t all that when he did see the field anyway, something about 2 bad plays to every 1 good play. Don’t need those problems here, so no thanks.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 5, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Heck yeah! HE was our leading scorer in the Oregon game!

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

John Stuart Commits to CU

CA DT 6’4" 230lbs (no stars) other offers from Fresno State, Nevada, New Mexico State and Washington State http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-John-Stuart-100396

Welcome aboard John

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 PM MST reply actions  

Stuart stood out to me when I watched

The west lake game. Seemed to have a good motor. Decent quickness and strength.

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

pretty cool

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

btw he also has offers from

Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon State, Washington State

So definitely a Pac-12 player

by cnbuff410 on Dec 5, 2011 10:16 PM MST reply actions  

*you’re – blarg long day

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice

great work

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 6, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Also RB Chris Brown committed to Oregon State

I read somewhere (CU at the Game…maybe?) that we were really going after this guy-his offer list was huge. Too bad. http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Chris-Brown-120287

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 5, 2011 11:13 PM MST reply actions  

I know it is an isolated incident

But that really discourages me to see us lose to Oregon State. I mean, really?

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

OSU has had successful 'system running-backs' in the recent past though

Who knows? They could’ve told him that he’ll win a maxwell if he plays RB there

Who knows? Maybe they’re right

by Ash Jackson on Dec 6, 2011 7:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I could see him

starting year 1. Embree would turn this guy into an NFL draft pick w/ Wood or Dillion tossing him the rock. 6-5 as a TE is exactly what we need, and already 250 to boot. I can see this happening.

by BuffulanceMan on Dec 6, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

He has a tough decision to make

Should he go to USC as a backup for 2-3 years (current starter is a Frosh) or come to CU and start right away?

Play for a team that will guarantee good records or take a risk on an upstart program?

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 6, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Our advantage

is we have a Head Coach that was a TE himself. Hope that could sway a recruit of this caliber.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 6, 2011 3:46 PM MST reply actions  

Colby Cyburt has said that he will visit (OL, Mission Viejo CA)

we just offered Psalm Wooching from HI as a fullback. Still wish we had offered a couple of other FBs.
Yuri Wright is all over the place. I would call him to Michigan right now, but hopefully he really really likes Tony Jones. I also think we’re in on Rippy, hard. As far as I know, Nico Siragusa is still pretty open, but as far as I know, Kelley and Taylor McNamera are taking visits just to cover their bases. I’d be pleasantly surprised to add either.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 6, 2011 10:01 PM MST reply actions  

So. Much. Recruiting news.

Just wish some more commits would follow. Hopefully when I wake up tomorrow Jonavaughn Williams will have committed. We still have to fill at least 10 more scholarships and I would prefer that we don’t have to fill them with random, last-minute offerings.

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 6, 2011 10:59 PM MST reply actions  

Current ranking

Scout ranks our recruiting class 8th in the Pac-12, 44th overall

Rivals: 9th in the Pac-12, not in the Top 50 overall…

A lot can change between now and February, however we need to land some 4 stars.

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 6, 2011 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks! Looks good

Plays physical. Looks good playing close to the line of scrimmage. Seems like he’d fit great into a cover 2 spot.

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

big weekend

I hope Rippy decides to come here. Could be a spark for other recruits. Seem like Wright may not make his decision official for a bit even though he supposedly has it down to Michigan and us.

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 7, 2011 8:52 AM MST reply actions  

Yuri is a stud

Just found this highlight tape posted on youtube a week ago.

Yuri has some nice plays, including a pick 6!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rS-bn96CAA

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM MST reply actions  

About the Upland trio

I found this highlight film of their game against Norco who has Scott Starr playing for them (USC MLB).

This Powell #46 kid is a beast! Many pancakes in this game. Actually looks good at DE and smashes the QB! Lots of tackles in the backfield. Having a dominant FB on a team is a huge tool! These coaches know what Brandon Drumm meant in 2001!

Abron #21 – TD runs look good. On the 2nd one, Powell lays out 2 guys. Doesn’t blow me away with speed or quickness.

Mosley #3 – Starts off with a KR TD. Has a big hit from his SS spot. Burns a CB for a TD. I wonder whether he’ll be defense or offense in College. Kind of like him as a Safety

Lawler is legit. He isn’t coming to visit, but we’ll be seeing more of him if he chooses Cal.

In conclusion, this is a good group and it looks like a great school to get some hooks into! I’d love to get Powell!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Christian-Powell-127877

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM MST reply actions  

Here is the highlight film against Norco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_sfPTyQa3g

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 7, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha no problem

There are certain advantages to being self employed!

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 8, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

AZ DE *** Ht: 6'5" Wt: 235

Offers from Arizona, Arizona State, Michigan State, Montana, Oklahoma State, Pepperdine, Purdue, Washington and Washington State

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtC1ajsxVTU

McGhee had an in home last night with him and sealed the deal.

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 9, 2011 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Sweet!!!

Looks like a good one!! 26th by rivals. Way to go McGhee!!!

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 9, 2011 8:05 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Kid is an athlete

Ya know… Al Williams was a hell of a high school baller…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gFeOgLPDrA

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 AM MST reply actions  

Any of our current commits early enrollers?

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 9, 2011 10:35 AM MST reply actions  

Norgard

also, Kelley and Wood will count backwards toward last years class as well.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 9, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Huck

for the video on Jagne. Wow!!! Hoping that we not only get Yuri Wright, but we get him early. That kind of verbal can cause an avalanche for our recruiting.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

Agreed on that

The takeaway from watching the highlight clips is that Jagne will play next year as a true freshman. How much, not sure. The highlight reel showed that this athlete possesses some great qualities. He has some SWAGGER!

by Lets Go on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Class ranking as of right now...

Scout has us tied for 36th in the country and 5th in the PAC12.

Not bad! I’d imagine that with 28 commits, this class will be ranked decently. Really good if we can get a few 4star guys!

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 9, 2011 6:38 PM MST reply actions  

Another year of growth will help with recruiting

November left me hanging and I’m excited for next year but I really think we’ll be pushing to get more than six win. Of course six wins and some crap bowl game would be outstanding.

by Queso Mal on Dec 11, 2011 7:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Yuri Wright's Facebook status Sunday according to ESPN:

"Pretty boring night last night out here in colorado headed home in a couple of hours can’t wait to get back…"

Take what you want out of this but my guess: Not Good.

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 11, 2011 7:35 PM MST reply actions  

Well if he was just looking for a party time we don't need him

Frankly I killed more than a few brain cells in Boulder but if his status revolves around how bored he is and has nothing to do with visiting with the team and coaches, we probably don’t need him.

by Queso Mal on Dec 11, 2011 7:42 PM MST up reply actions  

+

Attitude speaks volumes at that age.

by Boulder-96 on Dec 11, 2011 7:44 PM MST up reply actions  

He is a kid and sometimes I have to remind myself of that when reading about recruits

But I just checked his Facebook page and it looks like he prides himself in trying to look and act thuggish and I don’t think that fits in with what Embree has in mind.

by Queso Mal on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I hate to read into this situation too much

because we don’t know what happened or what was said beyond a Facebook status. I don’t want a partying thug either, I just think it might be a little rash jumping to that conclusion.

All I know is, it sounds like the Colorado/Yuri “fit” may not be there for one reason for another. And if that is the case, we don’t want to force a “doomed from the start recruitment marriage” either (for lack of better terms).

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 11, 2011 8:41 PM MST up reply actions  

However if he was looking for a party and Embree didn't provide

BRAVO to Embree. Our recruiting must stay clean, unlike in the Barnett era (sorry to the Barnett lovers out there, I’m just not a fan).

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 11, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

His Facebook post was one thing, but you should see his Twitter post!

Same basic message, just more graphic.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 11, 2011 9:03 PM MST up reply actions  

"Yeah last night was the worst night man ni***s aint do s**t and that was my last night here"

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 12, 2011 7:24 AM MST up reply actions  

hmm

not saying we should pull his offer or that I don’t want him just because of that but the kid obviously has some major maturity issues. you don’t say stuff like that publicly after a team has you out for a visit (even if you had a “bad time”). I honestly hope somebody showed embree this stuff.

by nebraskasux on Dec 12, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Not that I want to defend him

but his twitter feed is locked; in that he has to agree to let you follow him. Not that the internet makes much distinction between semi-public and public…

Not that it changes what he said, it’s really too bad

by Ash Jackson on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Really, i seem to have access....

Seems public to me, but then again i don’t really know the nuances of Twitter.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 13, 2011 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Twitter showed his profile as locked

And to view his tweets (shudder) I had to request it and someone with access to his profile (presumably him) had to approve it.

by Ash Jackson on Dec 13, 2011 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

when did you follow him?

He might have just locked it. I still don’t understand the point of having a private twitter. If you’re someone worth following (ie, known to the public in some capacity), then anything you say will get out eventually if it’s provocative enough. If you’re just some no one like me, why would I bother to protect pictures of what I had for lunch? No one gives a shit.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

About a week ago.

Yea, i was thinking i might have been “grandfathered” in. Maybe if you lock it, it only locks to new people trying to follow. might as well be email at that point?

Nothing new, just more douches trying to convince him to commit to ND or UM….

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 13, 2011 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

yea, if you lock it, it grandfathers in everyone already following

if you think his twitter’s a mess- check out his facebook. Good Lord. No wonder Richardson changes his facebook and twitter every few months.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 7:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far, necessarily

do you have a twitter? That’s pretty par for the course for a lot of guys, past, current, and future.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

The silence is deafening

on any possible sanctions on Oregon. Has anyone heard anything on their possible violations and that investigation. During this recruiting period, I would think recruits would be wanting to know the answer to that question. As far as Wright, sounds like a possible Cancer in the locker room. Could he really be that stupid to post that for the public? Yes he could.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 12, 2011 4:05 PM MST reply actions  

Food for thought

Maybe the coaching staff is softening up on some recruits after they learn more about their character and attitude. Embre has stated that he is searching for recruits that fits his mold of player. Sounds like they made sure that one recruit had a terrible experience for his last night. Could have been on purpose?

by Lets Go on Dec 12, 2011 4:20 PM MST reply actions  

haha

no

that’s one hell of a conspiracy theory. intentionally try to make sure a prospect has a bad time (pretty much our highest rated prospect at that) in order to find out about his character?

by nebraskasux on Dec 12, 2011 5:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Does anyone subscribe

to Scout Buffalo Sports News? Wright “recaps his visit to Colorado”. Just curious what he said. It states he just had a home visit from Notre Dame etc from headlines. Assume he’s gone, just wondering.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 13, 2011 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

His twitter comments

Pretty much tell me all I needed to know. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. I’d like to get Crawley.

Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.

by huckthefuskers on Dec 13, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Ignore his twitter account

CU or Michigan for him…

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by Jon Woods on Dec 13, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

That would be crazy if he signed after all this twitter fuss

Bottom line, show up and play high DI caliber ball, or don’t show up. Oh and while your here please try not to commit any criminal offenses. If we can get those three checked off this list with this kid, or any of our recruits I will be happy.

by brettden on Dec 13, 2011 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

There was something about RB Ryan Lewis

being offered. If he signed that would be four RBs (not counting Norgard). We seem to be looking at some under the radar type of guys, but I don’t doubt that coach Embree and staff have a good eye for talent. Hopefully we can get some more defensive players by signing day.

Its cool to be talking about recruiting and having so many commits already. nice change

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 13, 2011 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

I would guess that he's being offered as a corner

Mostly because we are really really desperate at corner

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotta say, I'm also surprised at how many FBs we're following

Already got Norgard, just offered Wooching (despite not offering Pinner at all), and now bringing in Powell and Parker (who might also be able to play ILB). FB is not a difficult position to find on the edges of a recruiting class.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 7:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea. I saw that about the FBs.

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 13, 2011 8:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Adrian Klemm to Ucla as OL coach/ run coordinator

he’s a SICK recruiter. Look for him to poach some SMU kids (Chris Harper, Marks, Palacio, Lewis, Hulick)

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 8:06 PM MST reply actions  

As a huge Pony fan.

You’re dead to me Klemm. Thanks a lot, June.

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by Jon Woods on Dec 13, 2011 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

dude, Klemm was leaving either way

maybe to ASU with Jones, or to this clown to Ucla…. but he was on the move

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 8:44 PM MST up reply actions  

and you have to claim Craig James. So suck on that

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you see...

his pompous ass is running for the US Senate?

I have now lost all remaining respect for politics.

by Buff-in-CA on Dec 13, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually it makes perfect sense!

Pompous ass is a qualification for politics.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 14, 2011 7:15 AM MST up reply actions  

It pisses me off in general, but then extra credit because I'm a Texan

As a Dallasite, do you have another level of anger since he’s ostensibly from there?

by Ash Jackson on Dec 14, 2011 7:49 AM MST up reply actions  

He has such a bad rep right now due to his meddling with his son Adam

But thats Nationwide. We’re hoping that people don’t recognize he’s from Dallas. We’d prefer people associate Dallas with Tom Landry, Nolan Ryan, and JR Ewing (most of you are probably too young to know the last one other than by TV trivia).

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 14, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh oh oh, don't get me started

Man, you know how to get me ALL pissed off!!!

Life long, long suffering Astro fan :(

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Same. We should share a Colt 45 someday

Though from the JR reference, I’d guess you’ve suffered longer than I have

by Ash Jackson on Dec 14, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Sounds good your in Houston, right?

Any prediction for the Ft Bend Hightower/ Southlake. final on Saturday ( the one were Buff recruit Peyton Williams will be missing)

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Uhh... Derp

I am in Houston, but I’m so far out of the loop on high school football that you could’ve told me Plano was in the finals and I wouldn’t know any better

by Ash Jackson on Dec 14, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

well, you only would've been a month behind

Plano East lost to Carroll in the first round (freshman year roommate was a PE cheerleader)

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 14, 2011 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly

I can’t even make a joke about it

by Ash Jackson on Dec 15, 2011 8:05 AM MST up reply actions  

With all due respect...

our teams the last 5 years have done plenty to ruin our games without Craig James’ assistance.

by Buff-in-CA on Dec 14, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

"Our football games"

is any college football game that he was calling…

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by Jon Woods on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

If you are a four or five star kid

you can call the shots. This year our best chance at those elite players was to get the instate guys. At this point that hasn’t happened. For that top kid, the promise of early playing time is diminished. They figure they will be playing sooner than later, no matter where they go. We must hope that our staff is a good judge of talent and character, no matter how many stars. I think we saw that with some of the Freshman that stepped up this year and performed. Next year we will have an incredibly young team, led by a quarterback with little or no experience. This is a 3-4 year project.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 13, 2011 8:13 PM MST reply actions  

not sure how true that is

Kids favor what they favor, be it competing for championships, early playing time, location, even academics.
Early on, Hawkins nailed some top recruits. Those mostly didn’t work out, but he got them. You’ve got to sell them on what they want and then fulfill what you’re selling.

Frankly, I saw very few true frosh actually perform to the level to which we needed them. Henderson of course, Oliver, Darragh… and then what? A lot of the rest of the freshmen were just needed bodies, and a few performed OK in their limited looks (McCullogh, Daigh, maybe Parker). That’s about it.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 8:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Washington,

the Freshman Safety, for the most part played really well from what I saw.

by hvis on Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind seeing us bank some schollys

I don’t really know the rules, but i hate the idea of just getting warm badies to fill out the class. Just the feeling i’m statrting to get. Since next yearsmclass will be small, it would be nice to spread it out a bit.

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 13, 2011 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

Bodies

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 13, 2011 8:22 PM MST up reply actions  

we'll still have scholarships to give

I think even adding 28 will still leave a 10 player void or so. Of course, I think a few of the current guys deserve scholarships (Ford, Gorman, maybe even Schrock). But I don’t think we need to leave anything on the table. I also agree that we don’t need to add bodies just to add bodies. That’s what we’re left with for the last couple Hawk classes.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 13, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions  

No Surprise

This guy pulled similar nonsense when leaving Rice for Tulsa. He spent the year saying how great it was to be coaching Rice and how he planned to stay for a while… then he bolted to Tulsa saying it was the job he always wanted… then he bolted for Pitt… and then on to ASU. Good luck ASU fans, he hasn’t been anywhere long enough to build a team. He has always thrived on winning games with the previous coach’s recruits.

by FtCoNative on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I just noticed this:

all the visit dates are listed as October, not December

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 14, 2011 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

Wow

That was embarrassing…

by BigXIITDOG on Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I noticed it, but let it go.

I do think that if we can think of around six freshman that performed with our brutal schedule this year, that’s pretty good. We have an easier non-conference schedule, but doubling our win total with our young team is a great goal.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 14, 2011 7:52 PM MST reply actions  

I think 6 is REALLY pushing it

I count 3 solids, 2 of which are kickers. We’ll see

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

All quiet on the Hawaiian recruiting front.

Hawaii has been good to us, including last year with Parker and Asiata. This year nothing so far, what is happening? Cabral’s name now is added to UH’s coaching candidate list. A lot of talent, with Pac 12 grabbing a few highly rated prospects. Anyone with their ear to the ground in that part of the country?

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 AM MST reply actions  

SAMSON KAFOVALU – DE

from cu at the game. 3 star for both rivals and scout. Offers from some other Pac 12 schools including the huskies and utes

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 16, 2011 6:59 PM MST reply actions  

I dont understand

Are you saying this is a CU commit? Is this someone we are looking at? from CU at the game?

by brettden on Dec 16, 2011 7:18 PM MST up reply actions  

he is a commit

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 16, 2011 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

cu at the game is a website

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 16, 2011 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I didnt specify about being a commit

or that it was a website. its a good site though. everyone should check it out

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 17, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

looks like a manly man

and the name totally fits with that hair and beard.

both rivals and scout have him listed now. good pickup, has a pretty nice offer sheet

by nebraskasux on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Ummm, how about some dbs, lbs and ols?

Or are we just going to send the house on every play? We only have one DB recruit but he is a real soft commit and my money is that he winds up somewhere else on NSD, unfortunately. Were the coaches watching a different secondary? We also learned this year that you can’t have too many big uglies either but we’ve only received one OL commitment so far. I’m all for talent, especially on the defensive side of the ball, but I’m kinda over the 30 smurfs at running back.

by CU2000 on Dec 17, 2011 9:19 AM MST reply actions  

Just to be clear...

I think this class is shaping up great but think the focus should now be DBs, LBs and OL.

by CU2000 on Dec 17, 2011 10:11 AM MST reply actions  

They feel good about Yuri Wright and Crawley

but I agree their inability or ability to pick up DB’s will make or break this class.

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 17, 2011 10:35 AM MST reply actions  

some if these guys on the dl are bigger than we are accustomed to

these are the types of people we need to get

It took all of us working together to fail

by dune1980r on Dec 17, 2011 12:53 PM MST reply actions  

What did Wright have to say

about his visit to Notre Dame? Are we still in the mix?

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 PM MST reply actions  

Any update on....

Wright, Crawley, Rippy or McNamara? Haven’t heard much as of late (other than Rippy trying to build his Twitter following).

by Buff-in-CA on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 AM MST reply actions  

A lot of it is

Last year there were a number of highly ranked classes (ASU and WSU come to mind) that only got that way because they oversigned up to, like… 35 kids (or something).

by Ash Jackson on Dec 21, 2011 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

That is what I figured

A lot to like about this class but still a bit underwhelming. That said it can’t be an easy sell CU at this point. Get Wright and Crawley and I’ll be much happier.

Also. Chow going to Ha-Vai-Ii. Anyone committed to the Utes worth looking at?

by NYCskibum on Dec 21, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Seriously...

If they sniff the Top 50, this is a win for the coaches. We haven’t been a Bowl Game since before Obama was president and haven’t won one since the Ipod was still the size of a brick, so selling this program to 18 year olds isn’t all that easy. I just wished we had canned Dan 1 year earlier.

by BuffulanceMan on Dec 21, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I think it has a lot to do with numbers

but the quality of recruits we are pulling in is consistently above average. We are averaging 3 stars, which if we can maintain with a 28 commit class will be impressive.

Shoulder to Shoulder

by Buff'em Up on Dec 21, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Ohio State recruiting

So with the bowl ban for Ohio State you can see that recruiting has taken a serious hit… They only have 8 4-star recuits and 1 5-star…… That will teach em!!

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 21, 2011 8:14 AM MST reply actions  

My sarcastic point exactly.

NCAA’s completely useless “punishment”

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 21, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I think vacated wins is the most hilariously stupid "punishment" I've ever heard of

Dear son,
you skipped school yesterday. For that, the trip we took to the movies last week is now vacated. Pretend you did not see it.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Wright, Crawley

and Rippy too, since it’s Christmas. (Siragusa and Powell ?)

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 21, 2011 10:49 AM MST reply actions  

Turmoil continues at UCLA

Check out Bruins Nation. Any UCLA recruits to poach?

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 21, 2011 11:54 AM MST reply actions  

highly unlikely

none of that’s really new, and Mora hired somme seriously great recruiters

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Adam is reporting the we've asked Manaea to grayshirt

But he’s not too thrilled with the idea.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 3:11 PM MST reply actions  

Just saw that

Kind of disappointing, he looks like a gamer. They must have some other hot prospects on the hook.

by highlandsbuff on Dec 21, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Have anything to do with grades?

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 21, 2011 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

always possible, especially since teammate Web is an academic risk

but I tend to think not. He wouldn’t be asked to grayshirt if it was academcis, and he couldn’t really be angry about it, because he wouldn’t have a choice. And academic grayshirts usually come to light in the summer, when all of their grades and test scores come in.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Thought I saw where webb is no longer a commit

I know it was previously contingent on grade imrpovement? but it looks like that ship has sailed…

by NYCskibum on Dec 22, 2011 6:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Manaea

is the top rated DB we have a verbal from. Grey Shirt? That is betting on the come, hope it works.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Dec 21, 2011 4:19 PM MST reply actions  

he always seemed like a really shaky commit to me anyway for some reason

if washington state ever gets around to offering him he’s probably gone.

by nebraskasux on Dec 21, 2011 9:03 PM MST up reply actions  

A little off topic

Interesting article about the “Harvard of coaching”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204879004577110731460989536.html

Needless to say, it’s surprising to see CSU near the top of the list.

by highlandsbuff on Dec 21, 2011 5:00 PM MST reply actions  

sucks that you can't click on a school and see who's on their list

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

not football recruiting, but still recruiting related:

I can see volleyball struggling to get elite west coast recruits going forward. We lost a top 50 player this year to Nebraska this year who had been committed for 2 years. She said it had a lot to do with Nebraska getting lots more fan support than us. Last night I watched the CIF-SS championship game, which was on cable. And it was absolutely packed to the rafters with fans. Packed. There were people watching from the walkway behind the endline. The students had cheers. At my high school, the fans basically consisted of parents and me. If we can’t generate some fan support, none of those players would consider CU. Hell, we’d be a step down.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 21, 2011 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

Cal State All Star Game was today

CU recruits participating:
Shane Dillon
Samson Kafovalu
Davien Payne

plus a few guys we’re still recruiting to some degree:
Salamo Fiso
Kyle Kelley
Ray Ford
Dalis Bruce
maybe others

Not much to report really, but… it happened. Dillon didn’t play after getting injured in his last game. Kafovalu looked good at DE and got some time at FB. Payne got blown up by Aziz Shittu. THE END!

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 24, 2011 1:10 AM MST reply actions  

add Milo Jordan to "also being recruited"

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 24, 2011 1:21 AM MST up reply actions  

and Jeffrey Coprich

alright I’m done. Here’s the roster:
http://calstateallstargame.com/5star.html

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 24, 2011 1:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I assume Dillons injury is not something to worry about?

GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.

by BuffnBigD on Dec 24, 2011 7:50 AM MST up reply actions  

correct

Not sure what it is, but he gave it a go in practice and just decided not to push it.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Dec 24, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

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