Continued, Discussion Board: Recruiting
by BigXIITDOG on Dec 28, 2011 3:12 AM MST
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PrintHere is an updated list of players who have visited (or will visit) CU who remain uncommitted. Please add your knowledge in the comments below and I will continue to update this list.
Last Updated: 11:20 PM, January 16
Players are listed by highest Rivals/Scout/ESPN rating
TE Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick **** Scout Rivals Will Visit 1/13 Will choose between: Colorado, USC, UCLA, Oregon. Favorite: USC. He has been a "soft" USC commit since June. However, he apparently had an excellent CU visit...
CB Yuri Wright **** Ramsey, NJ, Rivals Scout Visited 12/10. Will choose between: Colorado, Michigan, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Georgia. Favorite: Unknown. The Yuri Wright sweepstakes has been like a soap opera. Many conflicting reports, including facebook/twitter controversy about his Colorado trip (see first discussion board). I don't feel great about this, however who knows at this point. Stay tuned.
OLB Deaysean Rippy **** McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania, Rivals Scout Visited 12/3. Will choose between: Colorado, Pitt, West Virginia, Syracuse(?), Nebraska(?) Favorite: Unknown. Rumors are Colorado is recruiting this guy extremely hard. CU’s ace in the hole: His cousin is CU LB Doug Rippy. It's going to be a fight to the finish.
DE Luke Kaumatule **** Honolulu, HI Rivals Scout Will visit 1/27. Multiple offers. Will choose between: Colorado, Stanford, UCLA, Washington. Favorite: Stanford. He has been a Stanford commit since 9/2/11.
OLB Seth Jacobs **** Arroyo Grande, California Rivals Scout Will visit 1/20. Multiple offers. Will choose between: Colorado, Oklahoma State, UCLA, Arizona State, Arkansas. Favorite: Unknown. A few months ago this seemed like a long shot, however he is visiting which mean CU is at least in his Top 5.
CB Kenneth Crawley ****/*** Washington D.C. Rivals Visited 12/3. Will choose between: Colorado, Kansas, Georgia, and Michigan. Favorite: Unknown. De-committed from Tennessee 1/6. He has teammates DE De'Jon Wilson and DB John Walker are committed to CU.
DE Ewing Simmons *** Stockton, California Rivals Will visit 1/20. Will choose from: Multiple Pac 12 offers (unknown). Favorite: Unknown.
WR/CB Jonavaughn Williams *** San Juan Capistrano, California Rivals Visited 12/3. Will choose between: Colorado, Oregon State, San Diego State. Favorite: Colorado. Everything I have read points towards a CU commitment. However, Oregon State just offered and San Diego State seems to be hanging around. Teammate of CU prospect Keith Parker.
S Leo Thomas *** San Antonio, Texas Rivals Visited 12/3. Will choose between: Colorado, Arizona. Favorite: Colorado. Again, everything I have read points towards a CU commitment. He de-commited from Arizona after the coaching change.
FB Psalm Wooching *** Kailua Kona, HI Rivals Will Visit 1/27. Will choose between: Colorado, UCLA, Washington. Favorite: Unknown. Word is CU is really going after this guy, especially since FB Christian Powell went to UCLA. Wooching was originally a UCLA commit, I doubt they are in the running for his signature anymore.
Chris Solomon *** West Covina, California Rivals Scout Will visit 1/13. Will choose between: Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, Nevada. Favorite: Unknown.
CB/WR Jeffrey Hall ***/** La Place, Louisiana Rivals Scout Will visit 1/13. Will choose between: Colorado, Kansas State. Favorite: Colorado. One problem: Academics.
TE Trevor Stevens ***/** Friendswood, Texas Rivals Scout Visited 12/10. Does not hold a CU offer. Will choose between: Colorado, Boise State, Iowa State, Harvard, Brown, Cornell. Favorite: Unknown. He may be Ivy league bound. This guy seems very smart.
CB Ryan Lewis ** Sammamish, Washington, Scout Visited 12/17. Will choose between: Colorado, Utah. Favorite: Colorado…? Utah has jumped in late and he will visit the Utes in January. This is far from set in stone but Colorado did get to him first…
FB Keith Parker San Juan Capistrano, California Rivals Visited 12/3. Unrated. Still does not hold a scholarship offer from any school. Continue to keep an eye on this guy. I wouldn’t be surprised if I saw a CU offer eventually, if not, he could be a “preferred walk-on.” Teammate of CU prospect Jonavaughn Williams.
WR Vincent Hobbs Mesquite, TX Scout Will visit 1/27. Does not hold a CU offer. Does hold offers from: Colorado State, Marshall, Memphis, New Mexico, ULM.
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My Top 5
1. Yuri Wright – should start immediately if he’s really the 3rd best HS CB in the nation.
2. Wes Brown – 6’1", 200lbs, 4.5s in the 40. I would think he’d see significant playing time as this is a serious need position. Ranked 17th in the nation.
3. Kyle Kelley – Though we have a ton of D-Linemen coming in this class, the more the merrier & this kid could be the best of the bunch – ranked 13th in the country.
4. Rippy – Cabral has the skills to turn this guy into the next (insert former stud CU LB here). Having an Outland trophy candidate on D can single handedly get you 2-3 wins as it makes everyone around you better.
5. McNamera – I really like this guy and think he would become a Fauria-esque TE under Embree. I just think the other guys above would make a more significant impact immediately.
We should land 1 of these guys if Embree & Co. can recruit. If not, we’re likely stuck in shittsville aka Hawkinsland. If we land even 1, I’ll have some faith. However, Embree & co came in with unknowns in game-day coaching and knowns in being great recruiters. We better land at least 2. More than that, I’ll be very happy.
Great update
Man I am getting excited, haven’t been this excited since we had the Darrell Scott class, so hopefully this isn’t a jinx like that class was, but if we can get Rippy, Wright or Crawley, and McNamera, I will consider this class a huge success. Considering where this team finished this past year.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
So far
I feel best about our chances for McNamera. His parents like us and his decision has come down to CU (Boulder, PAC12) or Oklahoma (Norman, Tornadoes). Like I said, I really like our chances!
I feel we have an OK shot at Wes Brown and Rippy. EB is recruiting Brown really hard and a good education is important to him. We have an ace in the hole by having Doug Rippy here, but it’s a tough call. I am also really hoping we flip Salamo Fiso (OV in Jan). That would be a very solid LB class if we got those two.
I feel less optimistic about Kyle Kelley and Yuri Wright. KK seems like a tough one to get from UA and OU is in on him too. Yuri is anybody’s guess. JE is recruiting him hard. I’d prefer Crawley to be honest, just based on character flaws I’ve already seen in Yuri.
Other top targets for me are: FB Powell, S Soloman, DB Bruce, OL Cybert, OL Brostek, WR Williams and LB Dozier
Those are all guys I think we have a decent shot at. If we can get a good chunk of them, this will certainly look like a solid class!
Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.
Well fuck me
Something better needs to happen soon. This one hurt…
Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.
by huckthefuskers on Dec 29, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick
Embree wants to sign another TE. He was actively recruiting both McNamara and Cope-Fitzpatrick. Now that McNamara is gone, you would have to think Embree will go all out to get Cope-Fitzpatrick. He is a 4 star and will visit CU in January. The only problem: he remains a “soft” USC commit…
McNamera is now dead to me!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
JCF or bust
JCF is a force. He could play TE or DE.
If not him, than leave TE alone. We already have Ray and Irwin.
Q: What's the last thing a Nebraska stripper takes off?
A: Her bowling shoes.
by huckthefuskers on Dec 29, 2011 10:27 AM MST reply actions
I would really like JCF (obviously)
But you’re right, Ray and Irwin are on board. I like both of them a lot. I think Ray is going to be a very talented and productive receiving threat at TE, and I think he could develop into a pretty good blocker as well. And Irwin I think is going to be an excellent blocking TE with the hands to make Defenses regret leaving him uncovered. I really like that duo a lot and think that they’ll be solid Buffs, but JCF could come in and be a Pac 12 star from day 1.
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by DavidAGerhardt on Dec 29, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
JCF is pretty tight with USC
It would be a big upset if anyone lured him away, from what I’ve read at least.
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
Norgard and Kelly (from last year)
are early enrolees. Norgard will play fullback for the Buffs. Possibly that means the other FBs on the list weren’t gonna sign here? (or we didn’t want them?)
Reading the article about Embree
He said he was heading to Hawaii, so I am guessing he will be talking to Wooching along with some of the other kids on the list, I would guess that maybe if they get depth at FB, that Norgard could get a look at LB instead of FB.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I can't imagine that we'd sign more than one FB
but of course I could be wrong. The article on buffzone today is the one that says he’ll be playing FB, did you see that?
True, I would agree
Maybe we are going back to the triple option, LOL, but you never know, I think if nothing else, Embree and staff want some size with these kids. Looking at alot of the PAC-12 teams we played, we definately looked small, I think Embree and Co want to get some guys who can beat up the rest of the PAC—12, if that means getting two bad ass FB rather than one, so be it.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
interesting to see if the silent commits do commit
In Embree’s interview, he mention that he had several silent commits and encouraged them to go public. Yes, please go public. Do it now!
I thought McNamera already commited to OU
I think it’s probably Rippy and Yuri
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Not sure whether his commitment came pre or post-interview.
I was assuming it was post-interview, but pre-publication of the interview.
This is interesting
Utah commit Kiha Sai was asked to greyshirt and now he has opened his recruitment. He is a 3 star OL, ranked the 5th best player in Hawaii. 6’4" 300 lbs. Apparently he has received interest from Colorado and Arizona but because he committed so long ago (April), he has no other offer besides Utah. I assume that will soon change. I’m always for OL depth.
I am guessing if Utah is asking him to grey shirt, maybe some academic problems
That being said, if that is the case, he may have the same issues at CU, but I agree that getting more depth and size on the OL is always nice.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Access?
what did Wright say?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/close-race-to-win-wright-1101410
Tenn. lost Def. coaches to UW
Might impact Crawley’s decision. Go Embree!
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 3, 2012 7:43 AM MST reply actions
Lost Buckner to Oregon
and UA reporting that Rippey will now visit.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM MST reply actions
well lets see if any NCAA sanction come to Oregon
Could change if NCAA finally sanctions them.
Wes Brown
announcing today without a visit to us. Not a good sign.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 5, 2012 8:49 AM MST reply actions
Suspect Maryland due to the Lockley hire.
Shame…
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
update on Powell
Upland (Calif.) fullback Christian Powell was close to making his decision a week ago but picked up a local offer and will take his final official visit this coming weekend.
Powell plays both fullback and defensive tackle at Upland but is being recruited primarily as a fullback right now. He already has taken official visits to Colorado, Nebraska, Washington and Texas A&M and will take one more this week.
"I just got offered by UCLA last week," Powell said. "I was actually pretty close to committing to Colorado, but after UCLA offered, I decided to hold off, and I’m taking my final official visit there this weekend. I’m pretty excited, because UCLA is the local school, and my family really wants me to stay close to home.
Interesting on Powell.
He still doesn’t have an offer from us and he was ready to commit to us. UCLA has a soft verbal from FB Psalm Wooching, but he now has scheduled a visit to Boulder on 1/27.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM MST reply actions
Conflicting Reports
Rivals claims he has an offer from us. Scout says he doesn’t. Considering he was close to committing to us, I think Rivals is correct.
Wes Brown
Brown hasn’t visited anyone yet.
by jaysbuffs on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Yes, no visits for Wes Brown.
The sites are saying he will commit today, implying he will go with Vanderbilt, his soft verbal school.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM MST reply actions
Actually i feel pretty good about Rippy and Crawley
Don’t feel good about Wright or Cope-Fitz
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
Is Mane Manaea there? Wink wink.
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
Hmmmm
It seems */ TE Trevor Stevens (who visited last month) doesn’t hold an offer from us. Both Rivals and Scout were reporting he held an offer but I guess both sources have now changed that report. Could this mean Embree feels good about his chances with Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick? I’m pretty sure Embree mentioned he wanted to sign one more TE…
If I was to guess, Embree is going after another TE prospect unknown to us because all reports are saying Cope-Fitzpatrick is probably going to end up at USC.
Crawley
Looks like he has high interst in Kansas. What? He doesn’t look even have an offer. Weird
by jaysbuffs on Jan 7, 2012 7:41 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Man after watching Cyler Miles on Saturday, I really wish Embree would have been able to land that kid.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Wonder what UW is recruiting him as?
With Price only being a freshman, and another 4 star QB being signed, i have to wonder what might have been so appealing about UW? Early playing time at QB is highly unlikely.
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
thats what I was saying too. I don’t really understand what the appeal of that is. You could come to Colorado or another Big Conference schools that lack some QB recruiting and be a star.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jan 11, 2012 7:32 AM MST up reply actions
Things are about to get real
…real good or real bad. It sounds like many of the players on this list will decide in the next week. The first domino to fall will probably be Christian Powell and…I don’t like our odds now. He loved his trip to UCLA and his Mom wants him to go there too. We will soon see…
Taylor McNamara loved his trip to Boulder and his parents wanted him to come here
and he ended up signing with OU, so maybe this actually plays into our favor!
by highlandsbuff on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
The next domino hopefully
from that would be Psalm Wooching meeting with Embree in Hawaii and dropping his soft verbal to UCLA.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 10, 2012 6:29 AM MST reply actions
I have nothing positive to add at the moment
most of what I hear is bad, with the caveat that most of that is not what I would consider terribly reliable at this point
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
by Phil Fraser on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
As per Buff Scoop
I think Hall & JCF visiting this weekend.
I think Seth Jacobs vising next weekend (not listed above).
Others as well, but I don’t have a membership, so this is just from the homepage.
Others visiting as per Rivals Search
Colby Cyburt 3* OT on 1/20/12 (showing offers from 8 Pac-12 schools, Harvard!, and BC)
Chris Solomon 3* S on 1/13/12 (showing offers ASU, UofA and Nevada)
John Walker 0* CB on 1/20/12 (offers from KU, IU, NW). Seems like a Hawkins-type recruit from this list/ranking. Hope I’m wrong.
Cyburt is likely going to Stanford if he gets accepted
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
I'm getting worried
The guys we have committed to us seem pretty solid, however I feel like we need a final push to make this class great (all things considered). Everything I have heard lately seems to be bad news. I said it before and I will say it again, the next week or so is going to to be huge. Good visits this weekend are a must.
I woas wrong:
Cyburt to Ucla. I wonder if he got denied by Stanford admissions.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
John Walker
…but you know that by now
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
John Walker is a Buff
Adam Munsterteiger @adamcm777
#Buffs just
just picked up their second cornerback commitment from John Walker, who hails from H.D. Woodson High in Washington D.C.
Shoulder to Shoulder
Woodson/ Upland/ Westlake/ Cy-Fair
“If you come to CU, we’ll take all your friends too!”
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
we should change the fight song to the Friends theme song
hope this sways Crawley our way, the Walker commit not the song.
Shoulder to Shoulder
I feel much better about our chances with Crawley now
Walker looks solid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wEIIt1luM
Looks like a hard hitter
Shoulder to Shoulder
by Buff'em Up on Jan 12, 2012 4:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Christian Powell decision likely this weekend
USC got in on him as a DT, but he passed
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Still recruiting defensive lineman, Kelly
According to Ringo (Scout) there may be some academic qualification questions with current commits.
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
Wooching visits UCLA this weekend.
Does Powell pull the trigger this weekend and say I want UCLA also? Wooching visits Boulder in two weeks, or does he? Very interesting over these two fullbacks.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM MST reply actions
and we still didn’t bother to offer Jahleel Pinner. Sigh
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
by Phil Fraser on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Crawley's top 4:
Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, Kansas
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
What the hell is the appeal of Kansas
I mean seriously, Charlie Weiss stink must have some strange power on these kids, after his demise at ND, why would kids want to come play for him? He took a ton of 5 star recruits and made them medicore.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
and his defenses were god awful
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
by Phil Fraser on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
Seeing as how none of your targets are also on Cal’s list, I’m keeping my fingers crossed that you land as many as you can. Especially those kids choosing between you and Uclol.
After all, the better you guys get, the better the conference gets, and that’s good for everyone.
Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".
that's because all of your targets long ago eliminated us from contention (likely by committing to Cal)
y’all be killing em the last few years. All hail Tosh
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
by Phil Fraser on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
and here is this thing that everyone who cares about this thread should read:
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
good read
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jan 16, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions
interesting to note:
we have official visitors on campus today, but a lot of the players aren’t back yet.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
as expected, Christian Powell to Ucla
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Not a big deal.
It’s already came out that Clay Norgard will be playing fullback. With all the players they are still going after and positions that need more depth, they probably shouldn’t use 2 scholarships in one class at that spot. I really liked Powell’s blocking, but Norgard will be our starting FB the next 4 years. Count on it.
it is a big deal
because we continue to lose recruiting targets to rival schools, and this is another example of that.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Totally agree
Recruiting is going to be different for CU in the Pac12. Just having mountains with snow in the background and a cool college town isn’t going to cut it anymore. We used to out recruit schools like K-State and even Nebraska simply because Boulder wasn’t surrounded by corn for 500 miles. Now we’re up against schools that can offer sandy beaches…. and nightlife… and tan girls wearing bikinis on those sandy beaches…and…lots more bling
Just updated all known visit dates and details from our discussions
Thanks for the info everyone-keep it up!
next year will bring out the truth
If the coaches can really develop players we will be fine. I would rather have a 2 star athlete (but still have some speed), who has lots of potential unlocked by quality coaching. Some High School coaches just lack certain fundamental teachings. This complicates things on how much potential a player can really have with good coaching. So the rating system is just goofy. We need speed and continue to recruit speed on defense with pass heavy Pac 12. We should be fine if the coaches can deliver and unlock our recruits potential upon arriving on campus. That is why the DB’s in this class are very important, because they need to play right away. Wright and Crawley would be huge. Expect another 10 or more freshman to play next year right away.
no offense, but that’s the rationale offered by every program who lose out on highly rated recruits. Although there is some truth to that, a larger picture of recruiting shows that teams with consistently highly rated recruiting classes are also consistently highly rated in the polls that matter. Although the star system is certainly flawed, over the long haul, those 4 and 5 star kids matter. They are the true difference makers. Otherwise, no one would care about this crap.
And right now, we aren’t getting them. We can rationalize the reasons away all we want, but it isn’t a positive thing. It’s something we’ll always struggle with, because recruiting begins and ends with assistant coaches, and we can’t give them multi year contracts.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Agree and disagree
I agree that in the long run getting more 4-5 star kids means more talent and ultimately better team. I think the philosophy is even though some of those kids don’t pan out, there is always a certain percentage that do pan out. And if I had to guess, my guess would be more likely to see a 4-5 star pan out, than a 0 or 1 star kid become all conference/all american. It does happen, but as you said more talent means more room for error, and at the end of the day more wins.
I disagree though on the multi year contract thing, unless that is something new at CU. We had an 8 -10 year run where we were consistently one of the top 20-25 football programs in the nation. We were attracting top college talent, beating other top programs for that talent, and then ushering that talent to the NFL. My understanding is we had the same contract rules back then.
Contracts, coaches, all that aside, bottom line in college football is winning. If you win you get attention from higher caliber players (see Boise State), and if you lose you don’t (see us). Our problem is we did not have a tradition to fall back on when we began to hit the skids in the early 2000’s (which in my opinoin didn’t really happen in earnest until intermural brotha took over). Teams like USC may be down here and there, but they will never be out because even when they stink they get elite talent.
I heard Bienemy say earlier this year that we are not competing with the top teams in our conference for recruits, we are recruiting against the teams directly above us. So we need to win against UA, ASU, UW, WSU, UCLA & OSU. His statement was we take one step up at a time. And it looks to me like we are doing that to a certain extent. Bottom line we win 6-8 games next year and give a good showing in a bowl, we will be in position to take another step. We win 2-5 games and this regime could be in some real trouble. Sorry for the epistle . . .
"We had an 8 -10 year run where we were consistently one of the top 20-25 football programs in the nation"
the no multi year contract law came into effect in the middle of that. And college football has drastically changed since then. There is no doubt that assistants are the best source of recruiting. There is no doubt that good recruits are important to winning. And there is no doubt that CU cannot keep the best assistants when it comes to contracts. It’s why Embree hired a staff full of people with ties to the program/ area. If they’re great recruiters, they’ll get hired away. It is what it is.
Winning will help, obviously, but Adrian Klemm is an outstanding recruiter. He got talent to SMU. Now he’s at Ucla. Those guys will always end up at schools that can give them the most security. We cannot do that.
I’m done arguing about Hawkins, so I won’t address that. The fact is- right now, this recruiting class is shit.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Was hoping for a verbal from Brostek
from our Hawaii tag team. He now has scheduled a visit to UCLA. With Rick gone, UCLA has turned up the heat on the recruiting trail.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 AM MST reply actions
Sounds like Embree et. al. brought their A game this weekend.
Coffee is for closers. We need to finish strong.
According to Buffscoops headlines,
we can still keep our hopes up on Cope-Fitzpatrick.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 15, 2012 2:51 PM MST reply actions
also, Kiffin's in his house right now
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
I want to buy into the new hope...
but my gut tells me I’m getting excited over nothing. Again, I hope I’m wrong. I’ve just been burned too many times over.
after Kiffin home visit, JCF still has USC in the lead for his services
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Apparently his mom is very pro-USC for him
What do mom’s have against CU?
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
He still has a home visit from Embree
as well as visits from a couple of other schools.
It took all of us working together to fail
I'm not sure
if moms are really against CU. But JCF’s mom shouldn’t be, besides being closer to home, there’s really no reason to attend USC over CU, and I’d argue that college is the absolute best time to spread your wings and get out from mom’s, dad’s, family’s shadow and go do what you want. If you don’t do it then, when will you?
With the beach, babes, and beer, you’re just as likely to become a moron at USC as you are at CU with mountains, babes, and bongs, so any “party school” argument is a wash. And though I have done absolutely zero empircal research to back this up, I would put the number of TE’s CU has put in the NFL over the last 25 years against the number of USC TE’s in the NFL. At least quality TEs. It should come down to, as with any recruit, the “f’it”. Does JCF like Embree, Bienemy, and the other coaches? If it’s a wash as compared to Kiffen, then having your position coach as the Head Coach must account for something.
by BuffulanceMan on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
No reason?
USC is academically head and shoulders above CU and probably has one of the most impressive networks of alumni anywhere in the world. They take care of their own like no other, especially in CA. Does the typical student athlete care? Maybe or maybe not, but for most that it is a pretty important selling point.
Great point
I heard that CU lacks the alumni connection of elite programs. From my experience, private schools generally “take care of their own” better than public school, so that makes sense that USC has one of the best alumni orgs. around.
I’d beg to differ on the academics, however. A complete guess here, but I’d guess that USC’s players and CU’s players receive similar educations at each school, depending on their level of academic interest. Regardless, maybe you’re just saying the USC brand is generally received better nationally academic-wise, than CU?
by BuffulanceMan on Jan 17, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Branding
I can’t speak to whether the level of education is actually better or worse for the athletes or any other student. Like most things I’m sure its a result of whatever you are willing to put into it. But the USC brand is certainly viewed better in most fields than that of CU.
Did anybody see we offered a 6’10 280 lb offensive lineman Dan Skipper out of Ralson Valley? Saw it in on the Denver Post
6’10? Holy cow, that would be hard to see over
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perfect blind side protector
if he can move his feet, not to mention his road-grading capabilities with that frame. Hope he takes the offer. A CU education for free ain’t a bad gig.
by BuffulanceMan on Jan 16, 2012 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
you all saw he was a junior, right?
just didn’t know if you noticed…
by nebraskasux on Jan 16, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
6' 10" that's crazy
I am guessing he can play power forward for the Buffs in the offseason, Tad needs to offer him a scholarship too
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as expected, Nico Siragusa to San Diego State
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Tosh Lupoi going to Washington from Cal
that should make for a very interesting next couple of weeks
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a lot of guys are saying this is a big big move
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 16, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
We have a new visitor for 1/27...
he's hedging his bets while awaiting news from Stanford admissions
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Looks like he’s just enjoying getting off the island and doing some travel.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 AM MST reply actions
http://www.buffzone.com/ci_19755692
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Exactly what this class needs
another diamond in the rough
Ole Kristy sure was popular around the Buffs locker room, wasn't she?
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O'Connor commits to Ohio State.
If we could have secured our borders this year, what a recruiting class it would have been.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 17, 2012 4:39 PM MST reply actions
no shocker there
and we probably have about a 1% chance of getting Kozan. Completely shut out on all the in-state 4 star guys, that really sucks.
by nebraskasux on Jan 18, 2012 12:18 AM MST up reply actions
Hope Embo can rebuild those in-state relationships that may have lagged under Hawk
Gotta get the top in-state guys going forward if this program is going to turn around
by highlandsbuff on Jan 18, 2012 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Big weekend for recruiting
Would be great if we could land a few of these uncommitted guys!
Jacobs, Dyson and Simmons COME ON DOWN!
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A: Her bowling shoes.
wondering
Is anyone else wondering if we’ll ever hear any good news regarding the 2012 class? How long has it been since we had a commit? It seems the other Pac 12 programs get a new commit almost daily. It sure would have been nice to keep some of those O- linemen in state. I wonder what happened there (especially at an area we are thin).
Actually
We aren’t very thin on the OL. We signed 5 OL last year (including Nembot).
We probably wont have a Sr starting on the OL next year at all and we have a bunch of Frosh and Sophomores.
We have some bad timing issues with the instate kids this year and Embo couldn’t sell them on immediate playing time.
We are incredibly thin at other positions (which is why we’re loading up at DL). Do your homework.
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by huckthefuskers on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM MST up reply actions
OL
Loosing four to five 4 star O-Linemen from inside your own state is all the studying I need to do bro.
Again, take those stars with a grain of salt
Not saying they will be busts,, but our previous instate 5 star and 4 star o-linemen haven’t exactly set the world on fire.
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Pete Thomas has Ucla and NC State at the top of his list
originally committed to ASU, when Mazzone was the OC. Mazzone now at Ucla.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
just added a 2013 offer:
Honolulu (HI) Punahou 2013 LB Isaac Savaiinaea
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
Yuri Wright’s tweets are why Michigan stopped recruiting him
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
um, that's pretty much in line with a whole hell of a lot of athletes.
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Maybe,
but I wonder, given CU’s past, if those female-related comments will raise a big enough flag to keep him out of a CU jersey.
Guess we might see in the coming weeks.
by BuffulanceMan on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks Waterboy.
Hopefully Embree now has ended his pursuit of Wright as well. Don’t care how good he is. Just my op.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 19, 2012 10:21 AM MST reply actions
We would have no players if we prescribed to this thinking.
Half the players that are on our team tweet just like this. It’s just a seventeen year old kid. Half the stuff on there is retweets too
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looks like Ucla's class is full
which could be good for us.
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juco, division 2
Yuri Wright just tweeted his way out of division I. Wow, those tweets are inexcusable even for a 18yr. Wow
by jaysbuffs on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 AM MST via mobile reply actions
i don’t listen to a ton of rap music, but im pretty sure a lot of those tweets are from lyrics to like lil wayne or something
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 20, 2012 7:02 AM MST up reply actions
yuri's dad
Yuri’s dad looks like a great role modle. Are you kidding me?
by jaysbuffs on Jan 19, 2012 10:33 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Rip Scherer possibly leaving for a position with the Broncos?
Not sure if this hurts us at all on the recruiting front — seems like his name has rarely been mentioned in discussions about recruits, but could be I’m just not tuned in enough. Something to keep an eye on over the coming weeks, anyway.
hmm
and maybe not just as QB coach but OC? I certainly wouldn’t blame him if he left for that but honestly, I don’t really like the idea from the perspective of a Buffs fan OR a Broncos fan. I’d rather not lose him here but I also have a hard time believing he’s the genius that is going to design an offense that turns Tebow into a star.
by nebraskasux on Jan 19, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Good point
He doesn’t exactly strike me as an offensive genius, and the Broncos certainly could use one!
by highlandsbuff on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
Really Jon, half our team is of that moral character? How sad.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 19, 2012 4:17 PM MST reply actions
define "moral character"
Also, remember that these are cherry picked tweets, that’s not just a running stream. That first tweet was about his trip to Boulder, and I didn’t see anything wrong with it at all at the time. Nor do I think there’s anything wrong with it now. Here is a generic version of 90% of high school/ college athlete tweets:
If you weren’t with me when I was poor, you won’t be with me when I’m rich
Rise and grind
I would like to fornicate at the moment
man, I’m really hungry
this class sucks
#ParticipateInTrendingTopic
I’m bored
good workout today
Something about the music I’m listening to.
Something about God.
I need some more followers.
Rinse, repeat, and add in 50 or so random retweets that don’t really seem to say much. Throw in some dirty words and teenager slang. There you have a high school/ college athlete’s twitter feed.
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
probably not, but those are the only high school/ college kids I follow
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Agreed.
In my sad pathetic free time, i do read a lot of these tweets. Most are as Phil describes, a few are in poor taste but not much more than we talked about when we were growing up (just not as explicit and Atwitter didn’t exist).
Funny, you can sure tell the high schoolers apart from the college athletes, large leap of maturity.
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
high school athletes also don't have a university's compliance department
telling them what they should and should not post
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That what i was also thinking when i typed it
Should have added that its obvious who has been coached on how to respond to reporters and otherwise behave as an athlete in the spotlight versus who hasn’t.
Isn’t that on eof the first things they do with the new incoming classes?
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
yes, they have meetings at the start of each semester
I imagine some high schools do too, and more will follow. Most big time programs have recruiting coordinators already. I know Mullen and Mater Dei have seminars for NCAA expectant kids. Should be a mandatory topic now.
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Dude, all teams.
All KIDS. Pretty ridiculous to judge a 17 year old kid by a couple of tweets. I’d love for him to come to CU to learn how to better represent himself. All kids aren’t blessed with two parent families in the suburbs that can teach them how to grow up.
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sad sign of our society
but I expected worse. although not something I have ever said (let alone written down), its not the first time i’ve heard that. it isn’t any different than half the rap songs out there.
by BuffinCuse on Jan 19, 2012 4:26 PM MST via Android app reply actions
hahaha
and now Yuri Wright just got kicked out of school for his twitter
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nope. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence that it happened after football season was over
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I'm guessing it had more to do with the fact that the tweets became national news.
Although who knows what would have happened if they came out during the season.
so what does that mean for eligibility?
anything?
yeah, I was just wondering how he'll go about graduating
I doubt CU would accept him with a GED
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wow
Kind of a sad commentary on our society.
by jaysbuffs on Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions
methinks it's time for a new thread
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Got home, watched the game. Great win.
Phil, I could go into detail for you if you really want me to define moral character, but I don’t think you really want to hear it. Jon, I don’t know where this kid lives and if he has two, one or no parents. What he is saying should not be considered acceptable. Yes you want him to come to Boulder, because he is a football star. I work with around 60 17 year old kids every day, so I’m not in the dark in how they act in today’s society. I am also a father of a 18 year old daughter at CU, and I would not want him around her as well. If it is true, I applaud Michigan for saying this is not someone we want representing our school.
by Roaring Fork Buff on Jan 19, 2012 9:20 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
what I am saying is
don’t try to judge moral character by some tweets. Teenagers are idiots. That’s something I know to be true, as the owner of a teenager. It’s all nonsense. Our players tweet some nonsense. Our recruits tweet some nonsense. It does not necessarily say a lot to their moral character. Yuri Wright may very well be an asshole, but it isn’t because of what he tweets. That’s all. I don’t care if he comes to Boulder. My 18 year old is trying to get into CU. He’s an honor student who has taken 3 or 4 AP classes, and he’s still an idiot. I remind him of this on a daily basis. But crude language is not necessarily indicative of the young man. I used to coach little league baseball, and all of those kids (save for mine) are now freshmen in college. They’re all idiots. They’re still good kids.
And I was an idiot when I was that age. And I did OK. A lot of our student/ athletes tweet similar shit. That doesn’t make them bad people. A lot of them are still going to be people we want our kids to grow up to be. I give you: Eric Bieniemy, who was banned from campus at one point.
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Seriously
Thank goodness for Eric there was no twitter/facebook/ect when he was around. He would have gotten into a lot of trouble. I agree, teens are stupid, and should not be judged by each impulsive act in a vacume. Maybe getting dropped from Michigan (and ND) radar will humble him a bit. Not a lot of self aware 18 yr old stud athletes in our world today . . .
This should be an interesting one. But when you are tyring to catch up you do have to take some chances. We had several young men on our mid to late 80’s squads that were not choir boys.
Yuri Wright dismissed
whoa, didnt see it coming that fast
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I'll get a new thread up tonight, been really busy lately
Gotta catch up with all this Yuri drama first
Mister Jones transferring to CSU
according to Munsterteiger. Really wonder if our staff reached out to him after he decided to transfer from A&M.
I doubt it
he transferred at a really odd time. It was the middle of the season, so he’s still going to have to sit out another year. At that time, he’ll have 2 years of eligibility and won’t have played in a football game in 3 years. Gotta think we’ll have better options by that point (and if we don’t, Embree’s probably cooked already).
Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.
by Phil Fraser on Jan 20, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Back to Recruiting...
Another visitor this weekend: Isaiah Folasa OG from Corona, CA. Visited UCLA last weekend: http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Isaiah-Folasa-129276;_ylt=AoJYTgewto5Z4ap.NBUbWbjCrZB4
Also visiting:
Derek McCartney – http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Derek-McCartney-135233;ylt=Ahofg0LAbK9l3mP0WHR7RHCrZB4. Buffzone article here: http://www.buffzone.com/ci_19755692
and
Jason Gaines: http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Jason-Gaines-135232;ylt=AuHRzKZ8hG45WXnxkbS1YbCrZB4. Teammate of Dillon’s.
by BuffulanceMan on Jan 20, 2012 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
full list here:
http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=9&c=6&yr=2012
except scratch Dyson, and I’m not sure about Cyburt.
Should be a great atmosphere at the sold out Keg tomorrow.
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Too much info
someone please read all these threads and provide some sorta breakdown. Gracias.
http://www.allbuffs.com/forumdisplay.php/14-Colorado-Football-Recruiting-Central.
Yuri Wright got expelled
Not sure if this is the type of guy we want…..
interesting new offer: 2013 QB Devante Kincade from Dallas Skyline
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Devante-Kincade-109745
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlq-dNGjjU
Interesting for a few reasons. First, he’s a dual threat, and a true dual threat based on looking at his reel. He’s also not very tall (listed at 6’) and plays in a shotgun spread. He doesn’t appear fast or big enough to make a position change, so I’d guess he’s being recruited as a QB. He’s the polar opposite of Wood/ Dillon/ Burnette/ Dorman. He’s got kind of a long delivery that he’ll need to tighten up, but he makes some really impressive throws, even if they’re not necessarily the pro style throws you’d like to see. Nice zip, hit some really tight windows, and throws well on the run.
any thoughts, BigD?
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also got to add, because I complain about it a lot:
That’s a really good highlight reel. It’s short, and it highlights him making good plays, not just showing giant plays where he might not have done much that was impressive. Looks like it was put together by 247 though, so that’s to be expected.
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Couple of thoughts
When southlake played them in the state semi finals, he was a terror on the defense as a dual threat, has an amazingly accurate arm, but as you said, the mechanics need to improve. Knowing he is a Jr, he will be dominate next year behind Skyline which is really becoming a power in Dallas.
So, i see 3 possibilities
1. Great athletes like this often covert to DB. The QB SLC played in the finals was a one man show who nearly single handedly won state. He committed to ATM as a DB.
2. Possibly we ARE looking for more of a dual threat in a couple of years? 2014-2015 would be his early seasons and we might be exploring the option of going that direction similar to what a lot of the PAC 12 is doing.
3. Not a stand alone reason, but getting known around and getting a pipeline into Skyline is a good thing to do for CU. Skyline generates a lot of D1 talent (Kennedy recruited their heavily for UT).
GIVE UP- At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
1) fair enough. His reel doesn’t show any DB work, so I can’t speak to that. I’ll take your word as gospel.
2) I dunno. I have no problem with recruiting a dual threat. This kid looks a lot like Hansen, frankly. It’s just not what we’ve been recruiting lately. But there’s no reason to change up based on the conference, because it changes who we’re recruiting against. Pac 12 has all kinds of different offenses now, so this will really get really interesting going forward.
3) I can definitely see this.
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