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Despite the on field struggles. The recruiting efforts are creating buzz!  Poll?


I've been to every home game this year.  It has been ugly to watch.   At the start of the season, I had no idea that this season would turn out to be THIS bad!  It would have been great to win at least one of the Cal or Wazzu games!  It is incredibly obvious when watching that our team has a huge lack of talent and play makers.

BUT!

We CU fans do have something to be excited about with this program.  We finally have the right coaches in place!  Embree and staff are doing a great job convincing players to give CU a shot.  It isn't easy!  These kids certainly are not coming here to be on a 1 and 12 squad!  But they are buying into the rebuilding that Embree is doing.  The only way this program is going to head back to prominence is through a huge talent injection! 

We haven't landed the big 4 or 5 star recruits yet.  But it just feels like we're not far away from getting some!  And after watching tape and my eye tests, I'm much more satisfied with the 3 and 2 star kids we have now over the ones we got in past years under Hawkins.  We're getting players who have multiple PAC 12 offers, rather than having to beat out Army or Weber State!

The move to the PAC 12 was great for CU.  We have a great home.  We have a great staff.  And soon, we will have the results on the field we're all praying for!

GO BUFFS!!!

 

Oh, and in the mean time...  I'm really glad that we get to watch CU's basketball team become a force!

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How satisfied are you with the efforts of Embree and staff from the time they showed up to now?
Very
39 votes
A little
46 votes
Not really
21 votes
Not at all
5 votes

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What buzz?

I’m being serious, I haven’t heard anything in like forever! But anyway, that’s a tough question. I’m glad Embree is here, he’s still saying all the right things, but man, this season has been such a monumental disappointment it’s hard for me to give him major kudos right now. I thought we had the talent to win 5 or 6 games this year (maybe 7 if everything went exactly according to plan) but we’re most likely gonna go 1-12. I know what the injury situation has been and I know Hawkins didn’t exactly leave the cupboard full but at least some blame has to go to the staff too. The sad thing is that if we won a few more games and at least showed we were headed in the right direction there is no doubt in my mind that Embree would of pulled a top 25 class and the whole rebuilding thing would be well on it’s way but instead we’ve had perhaps the worst season in CU history and that could potentially delay our return to competitiveness by years. MANY years.

I am hardly a recruiting expert but I’m not nearly as excited as you are about our recruiting class so far. It looks to me exactly like the recruiting class you would expect a very bad BCS conference team. A bunch of 3-stars where we are their best offer. Maybe that’s harsh but that’s what I see. Not blaming the staff though, what do you expect with our on-field performance this year?

Also, just curious, are you happy with ALL the staff? I’m happy with Embree but let me just throw some things out there: Is Brown a competent d-coordinator? Does something need to be done with special teams? I really doubt there will be any staff changes after this year but I’m not sure one or two wouldn’t help.

by nebraskasux on Nov 3, 2011 12:41 PM MDT reply actions  

You want Buzz?

There is not a single coach in the Country that could get this team with the lack of talent and injuries we have to win 5 or 6 games.

Your complaints about this season being the worst in CU history are legit. But the blame falls on Hawkins for doing a horrible job of recruiting for years. With the exception of the true freshman, these are Hawkins’ players out there playing. Not Embree’s fault.

Embree has the incredible task of rebuilding this program from almost nothing.

So what buzz? Here’s a few off the top of my head.
- How about the fact that we have two 4 star TE’s who are committed to Arizona and USC who are considering a switch to CU?
- A QB who transferred to CU (over other good options) from Texas that was a 4 star QB out of high school.
- Signed the 13th ranked QB for 2012.
- 10 of our 13 current commitments hold offers from other BCS schools. So how can you say that there are a bunch of recruits where we are their best offer? Pretty sure our team is worse than most any BCS team out there.
- More top end recruits are taking a look at CU, just look at the recruiting sites. But we’ll have to wait to see which ones commit.

I don’t know how this staff could do much better. Would that be impressive if we were USC? No! I think you’re expecting a miracle and you need to realize what kind of situation we’re in.

I can’t make a negative judgment about any of the current staff until I see what they do with actual talent on the field. What do you want the coaches to do about special teams. In ONE year, they’ve got a way better kicker and punter. But the depth on the team is so awful that the players on special teams can’t hack it!

I know we all want to see instant success with this team. But after our program was burned to the ground. You’ll need to be happy with what we got or just keep expecting miracles.

12 PAC - Sh*t runs downhill

by huckthefuskers on Nov 3, 2011 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

You should do more research before you come to the conclusion of

“the recruiting class you would expect a very bad BCS conference team”

Those kids deserve much more than that.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

and you should take off your black and gold tinted glasses

our Rivals rankings as of this second:
11th in the Pac-12 and would be in the bottom 2 or 3 of every BCS conference. How is my quote you used there inaccurate in the slightest?

If you’ve personally seen every one of our recruits play and you’re some sort of recruiting savant then fine, but I’m 99% sure you haven’t/aren’t.

Listen, I’ll be a Buffs fan till I die but I’m just being realistic here. I just think it’s funny how people make sweeping statements on how things are looking so great. Like Connor down below with his “Embree is recruiting guys to fit our system and Hawkins never did that.” Oh really? Hawkins didn’t recruit guys to fit his system? Who did he recruit, guys he thought would make us suck? Come on… I’m just saying it’s gonna be a much longer process than I initially thought when Embree was hired with us coming off a 5-7 season.

by nebraskasux on Nov 4, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

to be fair

Hawkins didn’t have an identifiable system, so it would be tough to recruit to that. He fluctuated between spread, pro style. other things… remember, he tried to turn a great guard into a FB, when he decided that he wanted a FB.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Nov 4, 2011 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's an understatement

I figured his system was drawn up in the dirt before the games.

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by Broncoman on Nov 11, 2011 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

quotes

you shouldn’t be putting quotes around something unless you are actually pulling my exact quote. It’s not exactly representative of what I said

by Connor Shreve on Nov 5, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

http://247sports.com/Article/Texas-is-still-tops--45713

Listen, every single recruiting website has it’s own bias, so it’s possible that different website has different view to out current class. But, if you really care about what’s going on with out recruiting, you should pay more attention to the friday night game. How do they play? What’s the competition level of their team? You sure you know that every single week?

Regarding your claim “A bunch of 3-stars where we are their best offer”, I mean, I’m not sure how you define “A bunch of”. If you mean “3 or 4”, that’s fine, otherwise, again, you should do more research before you come to the conclusion.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 6, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

not exactly the strongest argument ever

ranked 46th by a 2nd rate recruiting site.

Seriously though, can you explain how they come up with their class rankings because it makes zero sense to me. We’re ranked ahead of USC when they have 9 4-star players and we have none? Is their only criteria number of commits? Don’t really understand that but whatever…

Anyway, I really don’t want to get in arguments about how much we suck as it’s not too fun, but to answer your questions in the first paragraph: No, I don’t know, DO YOU? That was my original question! I’ve said repeatedly I’m not a recruiting expert and I most certainly haven’t watched every high school game of every one of our recruits!

And I totally stand by the “a bunch of” statement.

by nebraskasux on Nov 6, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I follow these kids every Friday night

As long as they are in the game. I know their every week stats and I’m happy to have most of them, if not all. I mean it’s not hard to find the place which has very detailed game info for these kids. Just search and there is a site for that.

Again, we have 13 kids committed, and I can list 7 with better offer than us, and the 2 CO kids are reportedly refuse other offers after taking ours and didn’t report them. We got a Blue-chip QB, a very good WR group, pretty solid DL and RB and seems like one of our OL kid just got offer from Oregon. So tell me, how do you define “a bunch of” again?

IMHO, this class so far is better than 4 of all previous 5 classes, just not as good (on paper) as ‘08. Of course it’s not end yet but we all know what happened during the last month of last sighing period.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Staff

You never know about recruiting even on “5 star” guys. Brown I think has proven himself in the past and Embree needs time to prove himself. That being said, I’m concerned about Bienemy. The OC has really looked plain at times and fooled at other times. I was willing to give him a shot but, as of now, it certainly looks like the weak point on the staff. I know there is love for him here in Boulder and I’m sure he is a good RB coach but I’m wavering on his hire right now. I guess wait until next years guys are implemented?

by Connor Shreve on Nov 3, 2011 3:51 PM MDT reply actions  

I think EB is keeping it vanilla

Considering the talent level he has with injuries or lack of depth, i don’t expect something genius to come out this

Think about it, if we had a line that could pass block longer, recievers who were not hurt, more talented (exception Richardson), QB who had a stronger and more accurate arm, then i think you’d see the passing game open a lot.

Nothing against our offense, but injuries and level of capability will really dictate what an O Coordinator can do.

by BuffnBigD on Nov 3, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly

You can try to polish a turd, but it’s still a turd.

It all comes back to adding talent and remaining patient as fans.

12 PAC - Sh*t runs downhill

by huckthefuskers on Nov 3, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

positive

The positive in recruiting the way I see it is that the guys coming do seem to fit in the system Embree is trying to install. Hawkins didn’t seem to understand fitting the right players in a system. All the receivers seem to have good hands, skill guys are all around 4.5 speed, backs are big and the o-lineman are all big guys that seem able to carry 300+ pounds. That is nice to see. Hope we can land Kozan and King on the line.

by Connor Shreve on Nov 3, 2011 6:09 PM MDT reply actions  

I think the staff has been outstanding on the recruiting front

To me, compared to the last staff which was we will wait and hope we get guys, I love this staff proactive approach. I am not concerned with the star ratings at this point, those ratings obviously can be severly flawed, as we saw with guys like Ryan Miller (five star OT prosect, ranked best O line prospect that year), or Darrell Scott (5 star RB propsect, ranked top prospect in the nation by many sites), Nick Kasa was top 5 DE prospect also. What impresses me more is the fact we are having success in Texas as well as CA, and now looks like WA, hopefully we can get some more success in Hawaii and Arizona as well, and start getting the better guys from Colorado back here, and I think we will be fine.

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by Broncoman on Nov 4, 2011 1:40 PM MDT reply actions  

ok, ok, I think they're doing a solid job too, but outstanding is a little much...

I like you Broncoman, you’re ALWAYS positive and that’s cool (you’re my opposite on this site). Your points are solid but there are always going to be arguments both ways on the whole recruiting rankings thing. For every Boise that wins with low ranked classes there are 10 Alabamas, Oklahomas, and LSUs that always get top ranked classes and are always good. It definitely means something. As frustrating as Ryan Miller has been at times he was a 4-year starter and is still considered a NFL-prospect, who knows what he would of done if he was coached up a little more. D. Scott is leading his team in rushing and averaging 5.7 ypc, the book is definitely still open on him. I don’t think you can say the rankings were “wrong” on those two. Kasa sure, no argument from me there.

You mentioned the Texas thing and I probably should mentioned this in my first post. Maybe a good percentage of our recruits have 1 or 2 other BCS offers but look at the Texas guys. We have 6 recruits from Texas but between them there isn’t a single offer from UT, TA&M, Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, or Okie State. That’s the type of thing that concerns me a bit. And getting almost completely shut out in Colorado (which as much as I disliked him never happened with Hawkins).

by nebraskasux on Nov 4, 2011 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Your both right, it's a matter of perspective

All in all, I think recruiting has taken a step up, and will continue getting better as our record (hopefully) improves next year. As NESUX said We never seem to win recruits from TX, OU, TTU, etc…. So while we may be making inroads, we have a ways to go before we compete for the elite.

Embree recognizes the need for speed, while i don’t think Hawkins ever did.

by BuffnBigD on Nov 4, 2011 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I simply do not understand this line of thought

There is no possible way you can call our recruiting “outstanding.” None. Our recruiting this year looks a lot like our recruiting under Hawkins. Whether these recruits perform better remains to be seen for the most part, but that’s talent evaluation and not recruiting. We went from beating low level BCS schools to beating low level BCS schools. Hawk was actually a great recruiter before the wheels fell off. Embree hasn’t shown that yet.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Nov 4, 2011 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hawk was a great recruiter?

The wheels fell off because of his total ineffectiveness as a coach and as a recruiter.

It is all relative. Based on how horrible recruiting looked for the last couple years with Hawkins. Embree has done a much better job.

It obviously needs to continue to improve. I won’t be happy with a class like this at this time next year. But I don’t think I will be disappointed.

This is a long road back that we’re having to make and Embree appears to be taking the right steps towards eventual on field success.

At least 72% of the people polled so far are at least a little satisfied with Embree’s work so far. I’ll for sure be posting another poll like this next year to see if he improves or not.

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by huckthefuskers on Nov 4, 2011 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Make that 74%… Whoops.

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
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by huckthefuskers on Nov 4, 2011 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes. he was. it's basic math

Just look at the class we had on the heels of Hawk’s first season. Embree does not have that, regardless of your irrational hatred for Hawkins. We’ve completely crapped out on the top prospects within the state, and that is unacceptable. And I don’t give 2 shits about how many people are satisfied with Embree’s performance. It bears no relationship with my opinion, or with the facts at large. There is zero proof that Embree has done anything to right the ship. Maybe we get better. Maybe we don’t. But there is not one thing to suggest that Embree is the man to fix it as of yet. I hope he is, but he has to prove it. a single win against an inferior opponent and a decent kicker does not do that.

I will not engage you further.

Look, I've already told Utah to suck it. There's no going back now.

by Phil Fraser on Nov 4, 2011 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Recruiting is never a basic math

Looking at the most promising class in past 5-6 years without taking account the fact that most of the high profile kids didn’t contribute at all is not fair.

I do think given this time point, this class is an improvement over most of the Hawkins classes. You sure can have your own opinion though.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 6, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Basic math?

Name something that Hawkins actually succeeded at! Well, other than having one of the more memorable rants in College Football.

Just because he got some 4 and 5 star recruits, doesn’t mean he was successful. Many of those players didn’t pan out!

Being a good recruiter isn’t just getting players who look good on paper. It’s getting players who will produce on Saturdays. So far, Embree has shown that he could bring in a bunch of true freshman who can play right away. Most of them have played pretty solid and should really help our team get better faster as they get more experience and mature.

Thanks for letting me know that you won’t engage me further. Now I don’t need to come back here and laugh at the mindless response of how Hawkins wasn’t a joke and how Embree doesn’t impress you enough. Get real.

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Nov 7, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

ok, don't get all nasty with me because I'm not getting nasty with you

If Phil is done with this debate and you’re just gonna pile on I will at least say something in his defense: He didn’t say he was a good evaluator of talent, a good developer of talent, a good game day coach, or a good “CEO” of the program. He said he was a good recruiter. If you simply take that to mean “he got the players that he wanted to sign on the dotted line” Phil is right. He got Darrel Scott and Lynn Katoa, guys with offers from all the best programs in the country, stole Bryce Givens away from Nebraska, got lots of other 4 star guys, and got the top in-state player every year (or almost every year, I don’t remember it exactly) all during a period where we were a below average program at best. Now, I know the first three I named are laughable examples and a lot of the others didn’t pan out either, but you can’t blame “recruiting” on that. In two years Embree hasn’t signed one 4-star player and hasn’t even come close to signing the top in-state guys. Those are just the facts.

And you get real, you have to know that your argument about Embree bringing in freshman who can play right away is ridiculous, right? We’re playing a bunch of true freshman because we’re one of the worst teams in the country and have no depth and have been decimated by injury, not because they were incredible recruits. Hardly any of them would of played for a halfway decent team.

Now I hope you and cnbuff410 and everyone else on the other side of the argument are totally right and I’m totally wrong but I just see no concrete reasons to think that’s the case.

by nebraskasux on Nov 7, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Didn't even respond to you...

Sit down Rando!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7IXWoGhPaQ (in case you don’t get it)

My response was obviously intended for Phil’s unwarranted annoying and pompous “I will not engage you further” comment. Give me a break, are we debating politics or something?

I think my point and others I have seen here is that I can’t complain about the job that Embree has done so far! I expect improvement of course. But c’mon. How can you be that critical of the guy when he hasn’t been here one entire year yet?

He recruited last years class with a very short amount of time and I think he did a great job with it. Those true freshman have gotten the opportunity to play earlier than expected. But they’ve also not disappointed. Do you mind if I think of that as a positive?

This class isn’t even complete and its getting criticized already?!? That seems a little ridiculous to me when we’ve only got about HALF of what this class will be. How do you know he won’t get any 4 star guys? Or that Dillon won’t go back to being a 4 star guy like he was a couple months ago?

I don’t understand why you guys can’t show a little patience. What do you expect??? This program was already in bad shape before all the injuries that hurt us this year.

I can NOT believe that any CU fan would stand behind ANYTHING that Hawkins did. You’re telling me that he was a good recruiter simply because he got a few 4 and 5 star guys? Shouldn’t that be the expectation for a BCS program with the pedigree of CU? Damn right it should be! I’m not going to credit Hawkins for that. Just like I will be disappointed if Embree doesn’t prove me right by signing big prospects in the next year or two.

Although, something tells me that he WILL! But I’ll just have to wait to give ya’ll the “I told you so” comment.

But for now. Chill out and quit being Debbie Downers.

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Nov 7, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't really know you guys have such a bad memory

To say that “In two years Embree hasn’t signed one 4-star player and hasn’t even come close to signing the top in-state guys.”

that’s totally……bullshit. I’m sorry I may make someone unhappy but when did Embree come here as HC?

The fact is, he only had one full class using no more than one month. What do you expect more than that, exactly?

BTW, he did have another top in-state QB, and pretty much gave up him later on. Now we all know what happened I assume.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 7, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

Not sure I’d call this class is a massive improvement over a lot of Hawk’s players but Hawk was a great recruiter? Give me a break.

I guess you all have read this somewhere: 41 players who are not true freshman have received playing time so far this season. Of those 41;

Only 45% received an offer from another BCS school. Any BCS school. 15% received no offers by anyone other than the Buffs.

Yes, the 07 class is fine. However, the problem is not the class ranking, it’s his recruiting system: “recruit around the edges”. He will never be a even decent recruiter in BCS level without giving up this stupid system. Think about it, why some guys came to CU who were very highly regarded never seemed to get past the injury bug, grades, attitude, whatever issues. You figure out who.

The fact is simple: up until the last couple of classes Hawk always seemed to get a few high profile 4* or even 5* type guys but often the guys he got were available because other schools held off for various reasons. If you look back at all the 4 and 5 star players Hawkins recruited, almost none of them have had a big impact on the field.

I don’t want to argue with you about class this year, you guys just think it sucks, fine. But saying that “Hawk was a great recruiter” is simply wrong.

by cnbuff410 on Nov 6, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Regardless if Hawk was a great recruiter or not, he sucked as a coach.

So it becomes a moot point because if you can’t coach and develop talent then you might as well play/coach intermurals.

by BuffnBigD on Nov 6, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Great stats!

Could not agree with you more!

Good to see some common sense comments on here!

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Nov 7, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we take the whole Rivals ratings stuff way to seriously

How many 5 star propsects or even 4 star prospects flame out, it happens way more than them being stars. Look at the all Big 12 team last season, and I don’t think there were too many 5 star guys on the list, I think most were 2 and 3 star guys. What I look at is that we are having succes in Texas where Hawkins had none, and we are having more guys commit early to a struggling/rebuilding program. Hawkins got a lot of high star guys early because of the name recognition in that when he came over, Boise State just beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl and there was alot of buzz with Hawkins, but how many of those elite guys made any impact on the program? Hell, the guy I was so hyped on (Katoa) is in jail, so that shows what the 5 star rating does for you. Bottom line, Hawkins could recruit when he had a buzz, but once that buzz wore off, and all thre crap with Cody Hawkins and Scott, etc.. it basically nuetered him as far as being able to recruit soild players. What I see in Embree and his staff, is that they can identify talent and I think they will be able to develop it, I know it’s not showing this year, but considering how bad this team has perfromed and kids are still sticking with their commitments for this long, speaks volumes to Embree and his staff’s abilities to get these kids to believe in the program. Again, the star rating system to me is flawed in so many ways, how many stars did Stewart have versus Scott, yet who is the guy with the records now.

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by Broncoman on Nov 11, 2011 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Good take

I don’t think 5 star guys are the KEY to success. They’re are sometimes too much pressure on those kids and they can be a bust.

The #1 priority for the staff will be to get guys who will produce on the field and fit their system. College Football is dominated by the teams who have good lines and big time play makers. 3, 4 or 5 stars or not, they need to get those kind of players.

I think it is a good sign that we’ve gotten quite a few players that had other good BCS offers. Momentum will continue to build as we have more success and they’ll win more recruiting battles.

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by huckthefuskers on Nov 14, 2011 4:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Camera

There is an article in the Camera today chronicling the downward spiral of the program (kind of in the same vein as the “Blame Game” series of articles Buffstampede.com just put out). Larry Zimmer is quoted as saying he believes recruiting over the last three or four years has been the main problem. It points out that 62 recruits from 2004-2011 never made it on the field or completed eligibility with CU. Eight of the 21 players from the highly ranked 2008 class failed to complete eligibility.

by Connor Shreve on Nov 6, 2011 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

That's why it makes me laugh

when someone call Hawk a “great recruiter”

by cnbuff410 on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Nov 7, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Taylor McNamara

According to a ESPN report he is quoted as saying he liked his visit to UW as much as he did to CU. Says the main difference is how far along UW is comparred with CU. Says CU will get there, just take longer.

Not a good feeling about this. Might be one of several recruits we lose to having a dismal record this year.

Personally, after living in Seattle for 4 years after graduating CU, its depressing and cold ( i moved to San Diego to get away from that, which is coincidently where McNamara is from). UW is an urban campus and just doesn’t have nearly as good of a college town as CU. their version of Pearl street is the equivelent of Colfax Ave in Denver.

by BuffnBigD on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

McNamara

was far more positive about CU and Embree on twitter after his trip than he was Wash. I’m more concerned with Oklahoma or Notre Dame than I am with Washington. Also, in fairness there are a couple of 4 star lineman looking at CU and planning trips in the next two months. Also, the recruiting sites star ranking system is a pretty tough judgement. The separation between a good three star and four star is so minuscule it’s ridiculous. Take Hooker for example, I could give a damn that he is a three star because he looks like an explosive LB who is being recruited heavily by a bunch of good programs.

by Connor Shreve on Nov 7, 2011 7:20 PM MST reply actions  

Pipelines

The most encouraging part of Embo’s recruiting style is his concerted effort to establish pipelines to Boulder from productive high schools. He knows it’s easier to get a kid to our school if he already has a friend there. It also helps build relationships with the high school coaches. Look through the recruits we got last year and those considering CU this year and in 2013. You’ll see the same schools over and over. There are many examples, focused mostly in Texas, Cali, Arizona and Hawaii, but I’ll give one that’s less obvious to illustrate my point: Don Bosco Prep in New Jersey. Tony Jones came from Don Bosco (in 2010 so Embree didn’t recruit him) and now we’re back there for Yuri Wright, a 4 star CB who’s one of the best players in the country. Also at Don Bosco is Alquadin Muhammad, an absolute beast defensive end in the class of 2013 who’s already in the ESPN top 150. There are lots of examples, but I’ll leave you guys to find them.

by UtahBuff on Nov 17, 2011 10:17 PM MST reply actions  

In Embree's press conference

this morning, he mentioned some “good news” on the recruiting front last night. Does anyone have any insight what that “news” is?

by Roaring Fork Buff on Nov 22, 2011 11:34 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks Bleacher Report.

Welcome Austin Ray to the Buff Nation.

by Roaring Fork Buff on Nov 22, 2011 4:19 PM MST reply actions  

THIS was my whole point

I’m glad the former Buff agrees with me.

Stop forcing it!

http://blogs.denverpost.com/colleges/2011/11/23/cu-great-chad-brown-buffs-should-wait-before-declaring-a-pac-12-rival/22325/

College football is a sport that bears the same relation to education that bullfighting does to agriculture.
-Elbert Hubbard

by huckthefuskers on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM MST reply actions  

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