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"Did we really just Skype Mike Bohn?"

In a word, yes.  Yes we did.

‘We' being the twenty or so members of the Houston chapter of CU Alumni who attended our professional luncheon Tuesday of this week.  For half an hour, Mike Bohn chatted with us, gave us some big news, and answered some of our questions, too.  I was there, and here's some of what he had to say.

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We kicked things off with CU's move to the eventual Pac-12: "2010 will most likely be our last year in the Big 12," he said, and told us that "Phil DiStefano and our team of lawyers are down in Dallas right now resolving our exit from the Big 12."

He said the timing of everything is very good, and noted that the Pac-12 re-branding lends itself very well to Colorado's entrance to the conference.  He also mentioned that the marketability of the Pac-12 is better as a whole than the Big 12, both to the CU fanbase and more broadly.

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Mike described the excitement that he and many others have about the move and added "our faculty is excited about the move."  He cited several reasons that he likes the conference change, and he told us that, "often schools will look for research partners within their athletic conferences, and going to the Pac-12, the research opportunities will be much better suited to Colorado and more in-line with the university's strengths and culture."  [I think that's his nice way of saying that we're not an Ag school.  I'm looking at you, maroon carrots.]  He also mentioned that, "the academic rigor relating to student athletes will be more consistent, and that's more along the lines of what we're doing at CU." 

We asked him what the hardest thing was about leaving the Big 12.  He didn't hesitate, "Nebraska," he said, "and the history and tradition that we have with them.  And also, the tradition that we were starting to develop with UT, too."  He mentioned that another tough thing about leaving was losing the familiarity he had gained with the Presidents, Athletic Directors, and Coaches of the Big 12; though he pointed out that he and others look forward to establishing the new relationships that await them in the Pac-12.

On the topic of football, Mike was quick to tell us Texans that there are plans to keep the team coming down here, but he also said that they plan to continue to increase the football team's exposure across the country... 

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"We're planning major non-conference games in Texas and on the East Coast...we're also looking at setting up a marquee game in Texas stadium."  He also said that the Alamo bowl will tie into the Pac-12. 

We asked him about the future of the Nebraska rivalry, and he said, "I've been visiting with Tom [Osborne], and we're going to schedule that game again every few years.  They want to have games with several of the Big 12 teams, and we're part of that."

When asked how football recruiting in Texas would be affected by the conference move, Bohn cited that when Bill McCartney started out at CU, he didn't have the benefit of yearly games in Texas, (we only returned to playing annual non-conference games in Texas in 1989).  He said that the non-conference scheduling was the key to raising and maintaining our national exposure.

Speaking of scheduling, he said that, "if we leave the Big 12 in 2011, which it looks like we will, our re-vamped schedule features a major cross-sectional game with a Big Ten team."

Several of our contingent asked about Baseball, and how moving to the Pac-12 will affect the school adding sports.  "The first step," he said, "will be to take the increased revenue from the Pac-12 and better invest in the 16 Division-1 sports that we currently have; then we can look at expansion." 

An important part of expansion is galvanizing the fanbase, he said.  As an example, he pointed out the 23,000 alumni who live in California, "I'm not trying to call anyone out, but before the conference switch, of those 23,000 alumni, only 97 were members of the Buff Club." [i.e. having given $100 or more to athletics]  "Now it's not all about money, but those numbers can be a good measure to see where your alumni are at."

He did say that when expansion does occur, that it will likely start with Men's Baseball, and "the fastest growing sport in the state of Colorado, Women's Lacrosse.  You'll have the Women playing Lacrosse on Folsom field, and then we'll have to build a new baseball complex down on the south campus.  It's going to be great."

Something new that he told us about is a program that's being called the ‘Buff Nation Initiative.'  In his words, "it's a campaign to establish athletics as a window to the university as a whole."  [I can imagine that this could be a tough sell on some parts of campus, but if we can do it half as well as other universities, it will be a boon for CU.]

Mike also gave us an update on the new CU Basketball practice facility that's being built, "construction is going well, and the renovations to Coors Events Center are going great, as well.  Everything's going to be ready for the November 12th season-opener, it's a Men's and Women's double-header.  We're adding ribbon boards and a screen, and bringing back the fly-away goals; you're not going to recognize Coors Events Center."

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Mike saved the best for last, he announced that, "I'm proud to say that for the entire season, our home uniforms will be in honor of the 1990 National Championship team and the 20th anniversary of our football National Championship.  It'll have that big, bold ‘Colorado' across the front of the jersey, and the more traditional helmet color; it's more of a bronze than a gold, but it just looks right.  It's different than our current helmets, which got a little tinge of green in them last year.  I think it's going to be that Colorado ‘championship look' that people remember and are accustomed to."  [In case you didn't notice, those jerseys went on sale today.]

To the parting question of, "So who's going to be our starting quarterback?"  Mike Bohn had this to say: "For anyone who's been paying attention, I think that's already been announced in a lot of ways... I truly believe that Tyler Hansen will be our starting quarterback on September 4th when we take on Colorado State, and I hope to see you there."

Go Buffs.

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Great write up Ash!

I cant even describe how awesome those jersey’s will be

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by Jon Woods on Aug 13, 2010 2:12 PM MDT reply actions  

alfred williams replica jersey

I heard they were going to do a special alfred williams replica jersey to commemorate him going to the hall of fame. I wonder if that jersey will be out soon.

by JRod113 on Aug 14, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

After reading this, I have increased my prediction for Buffs wins this season from 5… to 9.

by BupsJones on Aug 13, 2010 2:39 PM MDT reply actions  

A lot of things about CU football have seemed off the last few seasons

even the helmet color. I’m glad to see we have an AD that’s working so hard to get us where we need to be in all phases of the athletic program.

by NoVABuff on Aug 13, 2010 3:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Interesting you said that

I’m beginning to appreciate Mike Bohn. It’s taken a while, but I’m starting to see what he’s doing and how he’s doing it. He’s smarter than we’ve been giving him credit for.

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Aug 13, 2010 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree

I have to admit that I was pretty down on the performance of Bohn as of last year but all of those feelings changed during the PAC Ten switch. I was very concerned that CU was doing nothing at the time and then BOOM! He somehow manages for CU to get the first invite into the PAC! And now, we’ll have an updated Coors Event Center ready for next season and a new practice facility.
I now say job well done Mr Bohn

by CleBUFFS on Aug 14, 2010 10:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow! great info

You got some scoops. That “major Big 10 cross sectional hooey” seems like it would be Nebraska. It just makes too much sense, since we would both be scrambling to reorganize the schedule.

And I’m proud to be one of those 97 California Buff Club members. All of my alumni friends out here are in that other group.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 13, 2010 4:41 PM MDT reply actions  

The way he said it

Made it seem like a lot more of y’all joined after the conference news broke.

by Ash Jackson on Aug 13, 2010 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

well that's positive

None of my stupid friends have. Hopefully we can get a few more CU bars for games.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 13, 2010 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

OH!

And I was told that the CU allotment of tickets for the Cal game was sold out before the official on sale date (because of Buff Club members). Probably a lot of salesmanship, but still…

by Phil Fraser on Aug 13, 2010 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

FYI

My friends and I got our tickets through Cal today so there are still tickets available to the public- plus they are less expensive then the CU tix and still a pretty good seat. We couldn’t sit in the CU allotted section b/c we have some Cal grads among us and they would have been pissed.
Any chance of a Ralphie sighting at this game? Would be a sweet way to introduce the PAC-Ten to CU

by CleBUFFS on Aug 13, 2010 9:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

That was some great info, so thanks! I was very surprised by the Cali numbers…. If they go up to even 1,093 members (which seems easily doable) that’s an extra $100k a year.

I still want men’s lax & in my dream world hockey

by CleBUFFS on Aug 13, 2010 7:27 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

they already have a very competitive MCLA lax team

It probably doesn’t help that most of the PAC 10 schools field very poor teams, but any growth to NCAA status will come from multiple teams moving up. We’ve got potential conference partners in DU and Air Force, but we’d need BYU, Utah, CSU, Oregon, ASU.. to all move up with us. That’s a major financial commitment (Hi, Nike and your new partnership with STX).

by Phil Fraser on Aug 13, 2010 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hope for Penn State to go D1

The more schools that do it successfully the easier it is for others to follow

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by Jon Woods on Aug 13, 2010 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

actually, they might just be in some sort of transition mode

They played against a D1 schedule, but I can’t find them in any conference.

And don’t sleep on Florida State. They’ve got a big push from IMG Academies down there adding lacrosse, they’ve got plenty of money and athletes, and I’ve been hearing lots of rumors of people antsy to move up.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would LOVE for both hockey and lacrosse

to finally spread to more schools across the country

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by Jon Woods on Aug 14, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that Nike and STX are working together

Makes sense, since lax is the fastest growing sport in the country for high schools and Nike wants a piece of that growth.
It really wouldn’t take much money to start up a D-1 program-could play on the soccer fields. Travel would be a problem, but your right w/ only DU & Air Force we would needs some more teams near Boulder. I’m surprised that the Cali schools aren’t better b/c there are now a ton of high schools teams in that state compared to when I was playing in high school-92-95’.

by CleBUFFS on Aug 13, 2010 9:47 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

LaX is still such an East Coast thing

Not necessarily in high school, but still at the College level. It means that all the kids playing it want to play out East. I played HS LaX in New Mexico and then in Connecticut. When I started talking about wanting to come back out West to college (obviously not for LaX), the other kids couldn’t even begin to understand why? It’s really hard to get kids from the East Coast to come out this way for LaX, and all the kids out this way want to play in the East.

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Aug 13, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's really not any more

From a recent interview w/ Max Seibald (Denver Outlaws):
…lacrosse becoming a mainstream sport: More D-I schools need to add it as a sport. Title IX is holding us back right now. Look at Florida. If UF and Florida State had D-I programs, little kids would be playing all the time. Any of the big football schools would help grow the sport. I played in front of 52,000 as a sophomore, so it shows that it’s growing.

If you would’ve told me I could’ve gone to Gainesville to play lacrosse, I’m there. If right now, you announced a team at USC, UF, Miami or Michigan, kids will de-commit from schools immediately. Schools like Cornell and Hopkins will always be strong because they are so deep in tradition, but they will take a hit.

The only issue is money, and as conferences add their own TV networks, it’s in their interest to add lacrosse just for programming. ESPN has to get on board as well. You can’t tell me that Texas or USC or Florida fan wouldn’t rather watch their team play Oklahoma/ UCLA/ Florida State that watch UMBC vs. Navy on ESPNU, regardless of the percieved “level” of their teams. ESPNU already had Michigan/ Chapman 2 years ago.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

damn it, I formatted wrong

Anyway, the Seibald quote is the first 2 paragraphs. My editorial is the last paragraph

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oklahoma has a very good club hockey team

A&M and Tech both have good, strong club lacrosse teams. But you’re right, the money has to be there and adding one of these men’s sports means having to fund a women’s sport as well

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by Jon Woods on Aug 14, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

As a complete aside..

I caught the Colorado/ Chapman lacrosse game last year. CU actually has a pretty solid contingent of fans (although I’m pretty sure it was spring break), and they’re just as annoying and belligerent as our football fans.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Colorado has a unique advantage right now

We have 2 pro teams, 2 NCAA Division I teams, a nationally prominent summer tournament, the MCLA championships are in Denver, and the 2014 FIL World Championships are in Denver. If we (and CSU) can’t use that to break into the big time, then it was never meant to be.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who is D-1?

Air Force and DU?

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by Jon Woods on Aug 14, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, Air Force and DU

And DU added head coach Bill Tierney, who is absolutely legendary, from Princeton. And his kid is the Outlaws GM.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep

I went to Princeton lacrosse camp for three years. Tierney was awesome.

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by Jon Woods on Aug 15, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah-

And Colorado College is already DIII (technically higher than CU, but realistically lesser, when it comes down to talent and competition).

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

The problem with adding Hockey

Is finding some home ice to play on. I can see them successfully raising the money for a Baseball/Softball facility, but a hockey arena is a much bigger commitment. Converting Coors could be a possibility, especially because there isn’t really space for another arena anywhere. There really isn’t room for Baseball or Softball either (if you haven’t seen the “South Campus,” then I’ll tell you, it is not a great option for a sports venue. The entrance is incredibly poorly located, the space is limited, there’s already a big structure there that they’d have to remove, even though it’s currently being used. I would hope they consider putting any new facilities somewhere else first). Men’s LaX I could see, just because they could use the fields that already exist, like Women’s LaX.

It will be interesting to see how we move forward.

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Aug 13, 2010 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe they use the sorry Ice rink in the Rec center

There’s no parking and the ice rarely ever sees the underside of a zamboni. The locker rooms almost always have major leaks and the seating is limited and old.

I could see them practicing off-site, but if we add a sport, I want it to be fully supported by the school. That means facilities and a campus presence. It’s hard for students (especially new students. You’ve got to build a fanbase) to watch games if they’re out in Broomfield, or even on the outskirts of Boulder.

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Aug 13, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's easily solved with some busses to and from the game.

And you’d potentially EXPAND your fan base to the greater Broomfield hockey community.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to hear

they’re talking with NU about the occasional non-con game. There will have to be a massive shift in NU’s scheduling philosophy for them to start scheduling an old Big 12 foe every year with their 9 game Big 10 conference schedule. I’ll believe it when I see it, but at least it’s being discussed.

I don’t understand why we would just add baseball and women’s lax without softball and men’s lax too. Makes sense to add them in pairs. One would greatly reduce the cost of the other. and I hate to say it (like David already did), but don’t get your hopes up for hockey, it’s never gonna happen. WAY too expensive and all sports we will add in the future will be sports with heavy participation by other Pac-12 schools. As far as I know no one in the Pac-12 plays hockey.

by nebraskasux on Aug 13, 2010 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

For as much as Nebraska fans like to say we don't actually have a rivalry

Their Athletics Department and Tom Osborne sure are singing a different song. You’re right that it’ll be a shift in their scheduling philosophy to add us as an out-of-conference foe, one that they probably wouldn’t undertake if they didn’t value our rivalry. And there’s a solid chance we also will be playing a 9 game conference sked, so fitting them in will be interesting for us as well.

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Aug 13, 2010 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nebraska Scheduling won't have to change

Because they’ll get to play against Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota instead of North Dakota State and Stephen F. Austin, and Tulsa Community College.

by Ash Jackson on Aug 16, 2010 7:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nebraska has improved their scheduling a lot lately.

(See USC). And baseball/ softball won’t really offset costs much. You can’t play softball in a baseball stadium, because you’d have to remove the mound when shifting from baseball to softball.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

if you say so my friend

(see this year) At most they play one real team non-con each year and always have 3 or more games in Lincoln.

It would be easy to build a baseball/softball facility over at the south campus so I still believe it would be smarter to add them as a pair. How many schools out there have one and not the other? I doubt very many. Adding men’s and women’s lax would be fairly cheap as would bringing back men’s tennis, no facilities needed for any of those.

by nebraskasux on Aug 14, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ha, well, I guess "improved" is all relative

At least they’ve moved beyond the Bill Snyder model to schedule nothing but culinary schools and schools that advertise on daytime TV for people who want to design video games.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wish I was there..

Hey all,
I am on the Houston Alumni Club list, but I’m currently in Europe on a 1 year assignment with work.. the Houston Alumni Club were/are great and I wish I would have been at home to be at this discussion.

Hopefully, I’ll still be able to watch the Buffs with ESPN’s overseas broadband college FB package, but if that doesn’t work does anyone know if you can get the Buffs games on KOA anywhere?

Go buffs!!!

by GulfBuff on Aug 14, 2010 6:05 AM MDT reply actions  

I don't know about KOA

I’m inclined to say no. But cubuffs.com sells online audio packages. Yahoo used to as well. Also check out justin.tv, which offers tons of illicit sports feeds.

by Phil Fraser on Aug 14, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

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