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Huskers and Rams be Damned; Utah is our True Rival

You can forget the hated Nebraska Cornhuskers, you can forget the CSU Rams; The Utah Utes are our true rival. Put aside recent passions, this is all about the full width and breadth of athletic history along the Rockies. Believe me, no one hates the big red "N" more than I, and those recent games with the Rams, win or lose, have been fraught with drama; but the historical significance of a rivalry that sees us set against an institution more in line with our academic and regional proclivities is something that cannot be ignored.

Since almost the beginning of inter-collegiate athletics at CU, Utah was the Buffs primary out-of-state rival. Such was the importance placed on the rivalry that what would become Folsom Field and even the nickname "Buffaloes" were christened against the Utes. Successful coaches, like Myron Witham (and his near .700 record), had their entire tenures at CU defined by their success or failure against the Salt Lake City rival.

Consider this, of all the non-Big 12 opponents to ever grace the schedule only CSU has met the Buffs on the field more often than Utah. In addition, the series was usually even, with the all-time record standing at 30-24-3 CU. For the 38 years that they shared a conference affiliation (1910-1937), either CU or Utah took home the conference crown 27 times; with the CU/Utah clash often being the deciding factor. Proving that special players show up in the biggest of spotlights, Byron "Whizzer" White had probably his two best days in a Buff uniform against the Utes in '36 and '37 (350 all-purpose yards a piece!).

Despite changing conferences, CU and Utah would continue to meet for another 24 years. 1961 was the last time the rivals met in Colorado. CU entered the game high in the national polls, but stubbed their toes against their old rival. Losing to the Utes 21-12, the CU team that would eventually play LSU in the Orange Bowl probably cost themselves a top 3 ranking with the loss. The game the following year in Salt Lake City would be the final entry in the rivalry (at least until the near future).

Beyond the gridiron, the Buffs and Utes share a regional dominance in skiing. As the two schools begin play in the "conference of champions," they will be bringing with them a combined 28 national titles and 145 individual titles in the sport. In the western region they stand alone at the top of the heap winning a combined 102 of 151 ski meets since 1983. They are the powers in western skiing, and that particular segment of the rivalry will no doubt be heightened by their new conference affiliation.

Sure, blinding rage (in the case of the Huskers) or dismissive condescendence (in the case of the Rams) can make for an intense and exciting rivalry; but CU and Utah share something deeper. The share a common, albeit somewhat estranged, history; something which forms the bedrock of almost every big-time rivalry across the country. For me the cherry on top of the move to the Pac-10 is the opportunity to hit the rewind button and kick-start the 48-year dormant rivalry that, for a time, defined football in the American West. I just can't wait for that first Pac-10 game with the Utes.

(Note: Much of the research from this article, especially the second paragraph, originally comes from David Plati's incredible Colorado Football VaultCheck out specifically pages 30-40)

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Great writeup guys.

Once thing, the record may be 30-24-3, but Utah’s undefeated against Colorado over the last half century.

by Ute in DC on Jun 25, 2010 4:24 PM MDT reply actions  

good writeup

first of all, I’m super glad Utah came over with us instead of the Big 12 south teams because I know we will be able to establish a nice rivalry with them, but it’s gonna take a while for me to really get into it. Let’s be honest, the last time we played them on the football field was decades before most of us here were born. I also see this rivalry being more of a secondary rivalry for both teams. The NU rivalry (sadly) is all but dead, but I’m sure we’ll still be playing CSU every year in all the major sports. Likewise, I’m guessing Utah will still play BYU every year as well. I think we might be better off embracing the CSU rivalry because if we put all our focus on Utah they might very well pull a Nebraska with us and say “we don’t really care about you that much, BYU is our rival.” Especially if we continue to be kind of mediocre at sports. Even with skiing, most of us probably don’t follow that too much but I knew someone on the ski team when I was a student and DU was their unquestioned #1 rival, not Utah. Again, good writeup, and again, I couldn’t be happier with how things worked out with the Pac-12, but the Nebraska game was always the game I circled on the schedule each year, I’m guessing it’ll be a long time before I circle the Utah game as the game of the year. It’s gonna be CSU, or USC, or UCLA, or whoever else I hate at the time, cause right now I feel no real emotion towards Utah. Just my opinion…

by nebraskasux on Jun 25, 2010 5:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Yea there really hard to hate right now

I don’t know about the rest of u, but Ive rooted for Utah ever since they got bcs buster status, plus the schools kinda like ours, CU is better of course….that being said once they get their PAC 12 hopes spoiled by us a few times, things would def heat up, to add gasoline there is that Mormon episode of southpark…

by fluffybuff on Jun 25, 2010 5:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

the trick to good rivalries are close, hard fought games

nebraska and CSU have definitely lived up to that recently. we’ll have to see if Utah games do too. the potential for a good rivalry is definitely there. i hate the jazz so it doesn’t seem like a stretch to hate the utes too.

by skithebert on Jun 25, 2010 6:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Another good post

I’ll be honest, I didn’t really get into CU football until 1994 when I was looking at CU as a possible college destination. Yeah, I knew about the National Title in 1990,but growing up in OH it’s Ohio State all of the time here and this was before all of the various sports channels so, the options were limited via TV. Needless to say, upon arrival in Boulder I turned my attention towards NU & OK as it was the last season of the Big Eight. It’s hard to give up those rivals, but I can see Utah becoming that in 5-10 years and I welcome the move to the Pac Ten. Right now, I just really want to beat UCLA while Ricky is there.

by CleBUFFS on Jun 25, 2010 6:45 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I see this as a friendly rivalry

and a nice change of pace from the heated passionate rivalry with BYU.

Maybe a few words at the tailgates before the game to spice up the food and drinks. Definitely bragging rights for a year.

I would love to see a trophy made to celebrate the reunion.

It would definitely have to be nicer than what Wisconsin and Nebraska end up making though. Theirs should be sponsored by Big Red bubble gum.

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by utesfan100 on Jun 25, 2010 11:08 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree

All of the hatred that comes with the BYU rivalry is getting out of hand. It’s only a matter of time before somebody gets thrown off the side of the stadium because BYU can’t stand that we are better than them. It would be nice if we could have something similar to the “Cocktail Party” that Georgia and Florida have where there is all kinds of trash talk before the game, but regardless of who wins or loses, fans on both sides get together and party after it’s over. There is no hatred between the fans, but instead you have real class and open friendliness towards one another. I would definitely love to see something like that come out of the Utah CU rivalry. That being said, I will never back down against those self righteous pricks down at the Y who have the nerve to call their team “God’s Football Team.” Some hate will never end, nor will it ever be reconciled.

by GatorUte on Jun 26, 2010 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

FL-GA works

because Florida hates FSU and Georgia hates Auburn.

Also the game is at a neutral site, though Georgia fans might say Jacksonville is as neutral as Denver would be in our case.

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by utesfan100 on Jun 26, 2010 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Which is why this could work...

Each team has at least one rival that makes their blood boil and has plenty of prospects for that in the original Pac-10, whereas this game could become that kind of ‘friendly rivalry’ instead.

by TexanBuff on Jun 28, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

True, but...

As of late, the Florida-Georgia game has had a lot more at stake for the season being that Florida State has seen better seasons. That being said, if Florida State comes back the way they are projected to do, I’m sure that rivalry will get much more national attention than it has the past few years. Having lived in Washington for the past 6 years, and being that I only started watching College Football outside of Utah Football only when Urban Meyer moved on to Florida, I am not always up to par on my College Football history.

by GatorUte on Jun 26, 2010 9:43 AM MDT reply actions  

Congrats Colorado!

On leaving the shadow of Texas. Here’s to the rebirth of a great rivalry and the continued resurgence of Colorado Football.

by Aardvark on Jun 26, 2010 4:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I have a lot of confidence in this rivalry

The rivalry will be there after just a couple of games if I’m not mistaken. The pro sports fans from Colorado really do hate the Jazz and the MLS team from Utah with a passion. If Salt Lake City had a NFL team, I bet the Broncos would be rivals with that franchise. When I found out about Utah playing CU in 2012 and 2013 before both schools went to the Pac-10, I was pumped and then I read the history between those two schools…how come we didn’t play for almost 50 years?!? At least that error is being fixed.

by Bone Crusher on Jun 26, 2010 9:18 PM MDT reply actions  

You pussies were too scared to play us.

;)

Just fannin the flames a bit. haha

Really, I don’t know why.

But it did happen after we kicked your butts two years in a row when you were in the much more prestigious Big Eight…

by JazzyUte on Jun 26, 2010 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

That MLS Team.....

Real Salt Lake (RSL) They won the last MLS Championship a few months back….

by Ute95 on Jun 26, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

New Rivalry

I was thinking that in order to get the rivalry re-ignited the PAC 10 should sponsor some billboards in the opposing team’s metro area that talk a little trash, I’ve even created one for Boulder:

You know that feeling when the Nuggets get eliminated by the Jazz? Now college fans can feel it too, Love Utah.

by cmag on Jun 26, 2010 11:39 PM MDT reply actions  

It might take a while

Count me among those who think a real rivalry between CU and UU is going to take a while.

As a UU fan, let me tell you that the UU / BYU rivalry is unreal—the two schools HATE each other. A few years back ESPN did an article on the top 5 rivalries in the country, and the UU / BYU rivalry was one of them. There are religious, political, and social overtones to the whole thing that escalate it to epic proportions well beyond football (not necessarily always a good thing). It divides friends, neighbors, and families.

The reason I bring this up is I think most Ute fans have a pretty positive (at worst, apathetic) opinion of CU and I think most of us were pleased that they were our “rival” school. It’s a great school and culturally similar in a lot of ways to the U. Contrast that with BYU, and you guys have a lot of ground to make up to rile up that kind of passion. :) As others have said, it will take CU handing us a few humbling losses and dishing out a little trash talk to get things going. And on your side, you’re already used to hating Nebraska red—should make for an easier transition to hating Utah Crimson. :)

OH, and as far as the South Park episode is concerned, you will probably be hard-pressed to find a school that enjoyed that MORE than many at the U.

by la tortuga on Jun 27, 2010 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Like Malaria,

Nebraska is in my blood and won’t leave. I’m all about hyping the Utah game, but I’ll always be looking forward to meeting the Huskers down the road.

by BuffsFan99 on Jun 28, 2010 1:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Fantastic write up

I had no idea there was so much history! For me it will be terrific to have the opportunity to play each other once again. No doubt the ‘rivalary’ will work itself out over time. Look forward to it!

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by jazzin'jimbo on Jul 2, 2010 11:24 AM MDT reply actions  

Ben- Excellent Post, I had no idea about this old rivalry!

Being a Utah grad in 1998, I’ve experienced most of my Ute fanhood through the WAC and MWC years. Truly looking forward to this rivalry being resurrected and finally having an excuse to make a road trip and snowboard some of the great Colorado resorts for a Utah game weekend in Boulder.

by everclearute on Jul 9, 2010 11:04 AM MDT reply actions  

maybe for basketball

skiing isn’t usually too great until late november. and even then its a crapshoot.

by skithebert on Jul 10, 2010 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

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