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The Whole Money Thing - The Finances Behind Colorado's Move to the Pac-10


I've been reading a few articles recently on the "winners" and "losers" of the recent conference moves.  Somewhat surprisingly, I've noticed that Colorado has been lumped together with the "loser" group.  For what!? It seems to me that we get more money from a more stable conference.  What's the problem with that?

The issue, it seems, stems from both an inflated vision of the future Big 12, and a misguided understanding of the penalty monies that CU would have to pay the Big 12 to leave early.  The fact is it does make financial sense to make this move.

Let's get this perfectly clear, CU entered into this deal taking for granted a few key points.  1) They fully expect (and the Pac-10 has reciprocated) that the new conference will help defer the costs of the Big 12 penalties.  2) CU expects (and with good reason) that donations and ticket sales will increase with the move. 

But, for the sake of argument, let's consider the move without these factors.  Under the conditions of the Big XII charter, CU stands to lose either 50% of revenue over 2 years  or 80% of revenue over 1 year.  Since the only hard-data available on team revenue is from 2007-2008, I'll have to go with that.  In that year, CU received $8.0 million in revenue sharing.  Under that scenario, which I certainly understand has changed, CU would have the choice of either forfeiting $8.0 million over 2 years, or $6.4 Million over 1 year. Yes, that's a lot of money, but those costs don't exist in a vacuum.  The increased revenue that CU will see from the new Pac-10 television contract will help us shore up the financial gap.

It was reported in the Denver Post that the new Pac-10 contract will probably be worth about $14.5 million per year at the outset ($6.5 million a year more than CU would normally have received in the Big 12) .  Under the 2 year plan, CU would end up with a net loss of only $1.5 million after the first Pac-10 year.  Under the 1 year plan (which is looking much more likely now with the understanding that Utah will start in 2011), CU would actually gain $100k after that first Pac-10 year.  Yes, multi-year budgets will have to be juggled, but these are smart people.  Our budget will be fine; it's not that hard.

But what about the $20 million a year in future Big 12 money that CU is going to miss out on?  Well, most agree that that number is pure fantasy.  From the Denver Post article:

"(The Big 12 contract will) be similar to the Pac-10 per school.  It's not realistic that Beebe's going to give Texas and Oklahoma and (Texas) A&M $20 million (each) and all the have-nots $14 million to $17 million. They can distribute that kind of ratio, but the total pie won't be large enough to add up to that." -link

The article quoted the same source as saying that the Big 12 contract could be worth $1 million less per institution per year than the new Pac-10 deal.  Not to mention the horrid deal-with-the-devil revenue sharing plan that the "forgotten 5" have had to swallow.

At the end of the day, the move isn't about the financial realities of the next one or two years.  This move is about the continuing future.  Check back in 3-4 years when the Pac-10 network is up and running.  Not only will CU be in a stronger position, but it will no longer be saddled with the competitive disadvantage of un-balanced revenue sharing.  The future is rosier than either ESPN or Chip Brown would have you believe, and it certainly won't see us losing $15 million. Yes, the deal would've been sweeter with the majority of the Big 12 South heading west with us, but CU is still getting a pretty good deal.

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how would nebraska penalties compare to CU?

i don’t know how much more they pulled in than us

by skithebert on Jun 21, 2010 10:50 AM MDT reply actions  

About $900k more.

In ‘07-’08, Nebraska received $9.1 million in revenue from the conference. By that, they should have to pay a $7.28 million penalty to leave this year. However, compared to the Pac-10 (and the Big 12) Big 10 teams get a ton more television revenue (because of the Big 10 network), so they will see that penalty paid off much faster.

Nebraska, weirdly, seem to be challenging their penalty. The Nebraska Chancellor recently said that since the Big 12 will continue to exist in some form, even increasing their television revenue, that there is no damage to the institution, and that Nebraska shouldn’t have to pay up.

That’s all well and good, but I fully expect both CU and NU to have to pay their exit fees.

by Ben Burrows on Jun 21, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but

I think Nebraska is right on this. The wording of the exit penalty section of the Big XII bylaws says something to the effect that the penalties are incurred by institutions if they choose to leave and it causes financial damage to the other remaining members of the conference. Seeing as how the remaining schools are continually talking about how they aren’t losing anything by having us and NU gone, and their reporting that they will be getting a better TV deal in our absence, it is hard to believe that our move has caused/will cause any financial damage to the remaining Big XII members.

by NoVABuff on Jun 21, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

All of the members agreed in writing that it does cause financial hardship. It is in the bylaws.

Nebraska (and CU) can argue that it doesn’t cause financial hardship, but it will be a difficult argument to win, considering they signed a document stating the opposite.

by Texas Wahoo on Jun 21, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't see how the Big 12 has a case there.

The conditions of the league have changed dramatically since CU/NU left. In that time, the TV partners agreed (we think) to continue paying the same amount of money in TV rights over the next 5 years. Financial hardship may be in the bylaws, but this is not financial hardship.

by Brian Floyd on Jun 21, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter.

“If a Member Institution gives proper Notice pursuant to Section 3.1 (a "Withdrawing Member"), then the Members agree that such withdrawal would cause financial hardship to the remaining Member Institutions of the Conference, and that the financial consequences cannot be measured or estimated with certainty at this time.”

There will not be an argument about the level of financial hardship, because all of the parties agreed to the level before hand. The whole point of a liquidated damages clause is to prevent arguments after the fact about whether and by how much the non-breaching party was damaged. Nebraska can sue to get the money back, but they will likely lose in summary judgment.

by Texas Wahoo on Jun 21, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Then what's with, if reports are true, the Big 12-2 trying to get 40 mil in penalties from both teams?

THAT part isn’t in the charter either.

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by jpage78 on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

40 mil total....not 40 from each. My bad. Poor english apparently.

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by jpage78 on Jun 21, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the 40 million is just rounding to an even number.

If both CU and Nebraska leave after the 2010 season, they will have given improper notice (less than 18 months notice) and thus owe 70% of their distributions for the two years prior to the end of the current term. That would be 70% of the distributions from the 2009-10 and 2010-11 seasons. Since CU and NU made about 19.5 million last year and the numbers seem to go up by about 1-2 million a year, I would guess they would owe somewhere between 32-34 million. Also, the fact that Nebraska was on TV a lot more last year (and presumably will be again this year) compared to the two years prior, that number could be on the conservative side. This is particularly true since the Big XII CG seems to bump its participants numbers up quite a bit.

I’m not sure why that would be written as 40 million, but it’s not too far off.

by Texas Wahoo on Jun 21, 2010 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Every report I've read states that we forfeit money

I.e. We don’t owe any payment to the league perhaps cu the boulder and Denver media has been lax in reporting the true cost of this move do u have a link for these bylaws besides chip brown? Plus 70 of 19.5 mil which is about what CU made, is around 13.5 mil. Nu made simlar nums so about 27 mil give or take from each school

by fluffybuff on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Straight from the Big XII's website:

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/handbook/Bylaws.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=10410

You forfeit 70% of the money for the upcoming year, as well as this past year. If this past year’s money has already been paid, then the Big XII can withhold all of the money next year until they are made whole for the 70% from last year.

by Texas Wahoo on Jun 21, 2010 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I see, thanks for the link

I hope our new conf helps out

by fluffybuff on Jun 21, 2010 5:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good write up

It is amazing how much you read in the media about any subject, not just CU sports, is a bunch of opinions made of only half understanding what the facts are. It all then ends up in a big echo chamber and sooner or later everyone just accepets the half truths as facts.

by lakebuff on Jun 21, 2010 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Good post Ben...to all Ralphie Report readers

This is Ben Burrows, he will be joining the ranks of Ralphie Report writer in the future. This is his first post in his test drive of the site.

Please welcome him!

Once he is on full time, we will have him introduce himself in a more formal manner. He is a passionate Buff fan who has already expressed that he is a diehard basketball fan which is great for site as we need more coverage of the Buffs on the hardwood.

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by Bob_Bell on Jun 21, 2010 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Great post. This is already my number one source for all things Buffs, and it just got a little better.

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by Lundonj on Jun 21, 2010 11:36 AM MDT reply actions  

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/13547/2008-09-conference-revenue-numbers-are-in

The 2008-2009 data is actually available. CU made slightly more than Nebraska last year.

by Texas Wahoo on Jun 21, 2010 12:13 PM MDT reply actions  

That was a very succinct wrap-up of the topic, Ben. Glad to see a fellow GBMB alum on here

by TexanBuff on Jun 21, 2010 12:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Yea but,

I read that CU would forfeit 80% of two years revenue. If I can find the link I will post it here. This is contradictory to what was published in the post and everyone else is saying. ya know what, it might have been that amazing chip brown article with the time-line. I have no idea. I would like to know what the bylaws say. I would take the 80% over 1 year in a heartbeat

by dune1980r on Jun 21, 2010 1:09 PM MDT reply actions  

In retrospect

The two year 80% doesn’t make sense how they would hold back money we won’t earn since we won’t be there.

by dune1980r on Jun 21, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Chip Brown

Just tweeted this:

Big 12 ADs in Dallas today working out how the $40 mill in buyout penalties from Col and NU will be distributed.

So he’s obviously making it sound like we’re gonna have to pony up around $20mm, which is more than double what I think most of us are expecting. I’ll bet it won’t be long before this all ends up in a prolonged legal battle.

by highlandsbuff on Jun 21, 2010 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice piece, Ben.

I’m all for the move! Question though. What happens in the scenario (most likely now) that CU starts Pac-10 play in 2011 rather than 2012. Pac-10 Commish Larry Scott has been quoted as saying that CU would start receiving a full share of conference distrubutions in 2012 (Utah will not start out with a full share) but it hasn’t been resolved yet how the Buffs will be compensated if they start in 2011 instead. That scenario would probably dramatically change your first year numbers. Agreed though that this deal is about the long term future health of CU athletics and the Buffs will not regret this switch.

by mam2jd on Jun 21, 2010 1:27 PM MDT reply actions  

I just read the same thing

Not sure how they could get out of paying us our full share, but it certainly would change my calculations. I posted with the only solid numbers I had at the time. Situation seems to be changing daily, I’ll have to keep an eye on it.

by Ben Burrows on Jun 21, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good post!

CU is certainly not the loser in this deal, cant we challenge our penalty since our departure didnt really hurt the b12?

by fluffybuff on Jun 21, 2010 1:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Excellent post Ben!

I anticipate CU joining Nebraska in some sort of lawsuit. Seems to me that the Big 12-2 will try to inflate penalties to increase initial bankroll revenue to placate the have nots (KU, KSU, MU, ISU) for a couple years until the conference is either viable or collapses. This is not acceptable, especially if it’s not in the Big 12 charter.

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by jpage78 on Jun 21, 2010 1:51 PM MDT reply actions  

agreed

if this chip brown post is true we will definately have to team up, could get very ugly

by fluffybuff on Jun 21, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I anticipate the Pac 10 and the Big 10 will back the lawsuits

if it got to that point. Nebraska may have got wind of what Beebe was trying to do and is trying to get ahead of the game by either threatening to sue or actually suing….in which case CU should join in.

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by jpage78 on Jun 21, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

If CU is lawyering up

might as well go after that $500k from Bzdelik while we have them on retainer

by NYCskibum on Jun 21, 2010 4:26 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

+1 if we have to pay, he should have to pay

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by Bob_Bell on Jun 21, 2010 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great point

I want that $500k now!

I’m not a lawyer, but there is no way that we owe $20 mil for leaving from everything that I have read and/or know. Orangebloods are just trying to amp up the payout in order to please the masses – CU should sue them as conspirators towards the demise of the big XII if things get ugly.

by CleBUFFS on Jun 21, 2010 8:13 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

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