Pac 12 Likely Means Buffs Play a California School At Least Once a Year
With Texas out of the picture, many are excited that Colorado will be in a league that doesn't feature the Big 12 South teams. Further, the potential Pac 12 conference would guarantee the Buffs will play a California team at least once every year, something that may not have been possible every year if the league expanded to 16 teams.
Playing a California team every year has plenty of benefits, most notably gaining in the share of California high school prospects who get to watch the Buffs on a weekly basis. The new Pac 12 television contract will also help more kids see the Buffs play in one of the best states for high school football. 23 of the 87 football players listed on today's roster consist of players from California so the Buffs certainly value recruiting in the state. Also, it is no secret that many Colorado alumni live on the west coast, especially California. According to Mike Bohn, 45% of the Colorado student base comes from out of state plus the University gains a larger alumni base in the Pac 10 states compared to the Big 12 states:
Bohn said CU's Western orientation makes it a good fit with the Pac-10. He said 45 percent of the incoming class each year at CU comes from out of state -- primarily California and Arizona.
"You start thinking about how each of those institutions in the Pac-10 partner with the University of Colorado."
He said there is 50,000 more alumni in the Pac-10 footprint than there is in the Big 12 footprint.
"We've hired a new director of the Alumni Association and this will be a great kickoff for her to be able to get started and really try to rally and galvanize our constituents that make up a great university."
Playing in front of a larger alumni base will hopefully have its benefits from a donor perspective.
So, let's say the Buffs are grouped in the following division within the Pac 12 conference (assuming Utah gets the invite):
| North East Division | South West Division |
| Colorado Buffaloes | USC Trojans |
| Utah Utes | UCLA Bruins |
| Oregon Ducks | California Golden Bears |
| Oregon St. Beavers | Stanford Cardinal |
| Washington Huskies | Arizona Wildcats |
| Washington St. Cougars | Arizona St. Sun Devils |
Of course, this isn't set in stone but it has been the alignment used by most in predicting how the divisions would play out. I have also seen a scenario where California and Stanford would shift to the Northern part of the conference with Oregon State, Oregon, Washington and Washington State. Colorado and Utah would then be grouped with UCLA, USC and the Arizona schools.
Now the fun part looking at the potential future schedules in 2012 - 2015. 2012 is when the Pac 12 is expected to take form according to commissioner Larry Scott. I expect the Pac 12 scheduling to be similar to the way the old Big 12 ran it: play your division opponents once every year, alternating home and away. Then each team would play three members of the other division for two years, once home and once away.
| Potential Schedule - 2012 through 2015 - Colorado Buffaloes | |
| 2012 Schedule | 2013 Schedule |
| Colorado State (Denver) | Colorado State (Denver) |
| at Minnesota | Minnesota |
| at Fresno State | Fresno State |
| Open - (currently Utah in Non-Conference) | Open - (currently Utah in Non-Conference) |
| at USC | USC |
| at Oregon State | Oregon State |
| Oregon | at Oregon |
| at Washington | Washington |
| Washington State | at Washington State |
| at UCLA | UCLA |
| Arizona State | at Arizona State |
| Utah | at Utah |
| 2014 Schedule | 2015 Schedule |
| Colorado State (Denver) | at Hawaii |
| Open | Open - (currently Washington in Non-Conference) |
| Open - (currently Oregon in Non-Conference) | Open |
| Hawaii | Open |
| at California | California |
| at Washington | Washington |
| Oregon | at Oregon |
| at Arizona | Arizona |
| Stanford | at Stanford |
| at Oregon State | Oregon State |
| Washington State | at Washington State |
| Utah | at Utah |
Even if Colorado is not in the Arizona, Arizona St., UCLA and USC division, Colorado will still play a California team every year. Colorado already had Washington, Utah and Oregon schedule in 2012 - 2015 so those games will need to be rescheduled with an out of conference game.
But tell me a potential 2013 schedule doesn't get you a little excited? Home games: USC, Oregon State, Fresno St. Bulldogs, Minnesota Golden Gophers, Washington and UCLA with a game against Colorado St. Rams in Denver.
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I heard that it would most likely be a Northwest- Southeast alignment
Northwest-
UW
WSU
UO
OSU
Stanford
Cal
Southwest-
CU
Utah
ASU
UA
UCLA
USC
even better
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ick...
Sorry, but that is the worst possible split in my grumpy opinion…..
Trying to find a silver lining in this development (not hiding my dissapointment), I do like the idea of playing WA and OR on a regular basis, but could really care less about AZ or AZST. I guess it beats Iowa St…..
I have to believe all 4 Cali schools stay together
They’re the core schools, they have SO MUCH history with each other, and I have a hard time believing they don’t all end up in the same division.
As for the other two teams in the division – I’d prefer the Oregons, but who knows how all that will shake out.
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Move the csu game to the end of the year
With Nebraska gone, we have a gaping hole now. Move csu to the day after Thanksgiving and schedule Directional U.
by clbuff28 on Jun 14, 2010 9:26 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Don't necessarily expect divisions to be geographical
This has been bandied about for years regarding Pac-10 expansion… The bottom line is the Oregon and Washington schools will almost certainly shoot down any divisional alignment that separates them from Southern California.
The Northwest schools rely heavily on California kids and will want to play one game in California each year. This can be done — if you’re creative.
So how do you do divisions in the Pac-12? Something like this:
Pacific Division – WASH, ORE, CAL, UCLA, AZ, COLO
Coastal Division – WSU, OSU, STAN, USC, ASU, UTAH
Now – this may seem unorthodox, but the reality is you’d play 5 games against your division every year, but the conference can still guarantee you play your “rival” every season (even if you aren’t in the same division). Then the other 2-3 conference games would be against the other division.
I really have a hard time seeing a Northwest and Southwest division. It won’t fly with UW, WSU, Oregon and OSU. One-third of the conference will be up in arms. And for good reason.
I like this alignment a lot and the rivalry game against the opposite
conference opponent makes a ton of sense
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by bodiboom on Jun 14, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow
well if this is true its awesome for us recruiting wise (and Larry Scott was a bit more prepared for this than I thought (see my post right below). and selfishly for us Southern California Buffs we get a visit yearly either at the Rose Bowl or Coliseum.
Everyone should get to play at least one LA school a year
And play in LA at least every other year… not too bad for a 12 team conference.
by Grady Clapp on Jun 14, 2010 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh, didn't read the linked article
Not sure there’s much truth to that. The Pac hasn’t even confirmed Utah yet… seems like a jump to conclusions.
Another option would be no divisional play at all.
The only advantage I could see to a Pac-10 North/South for the Northwest schools is the ability to make the Pac title game without dealing with USC. But it screams Big XII North/South…
The Big XII is going round-robin and the Pac-10 divisional. Quite a switcharoo.
by Grady Clapp on Jun 14, 2010 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
oh god
Not another zipper backer. It’s like looking at how much the ACC has struggled since expansion and saying “ooh! their wacky format looks like fun! let’s do that!”
Now I canspend my days figuring out this divisonal drama
instead of all the fruitless realignment stuff. Anyway, up until four or five years ago, when the pac10 played 8 conference games, they had some weird rotation where you skipped one school every year. now i know for sure natural rivals played every year, and i think all the CA schools played every year. If we stay at 11, its possible the Pac10 brings back this rotation. But since 11 teams is unlikely for a number of reasons, its going to 12 and divisions form. I dont think Larry Scott knows what those divisions look like at this point, I think they spent all their time trying to get to 16 teams and now thats off the table there will be some good discussions over the next few months about how to group the team. The more I sit and think about the fact that we left that o other conference, the better it gets. GO BUFFS
welcome to the Pac 10+2
The non-conference games are scheduled 4-5 years ago. It’s a coincidence that Colorado travels to play California – Berkeley (Golden Bears) September 11, 2010 at 12:30 PM PST. California then travels to Colorado September 10, 2011.
It’s a small world.
by zbear on Jun 15, 2010 3:49 AM MDT reply actions
When does the blog move to the Pac 10 section =p
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 15, 2010 6:32 AM MDT reply actions
Good question
We are negotiating our penalty payout right now!
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