Sunday Buff Bites - July 1st Looks Like the Pac-10 Deadline for Colorado
by Bob_Bell on Feb 14, 2010 9:00 AM MST
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Krieger: If the Pac-10 calls, Buffs must listen - The Denver Post
If an expanded Pac-12 wants a more lucrative TV package in place when the current package expires, it will need to have new media markets — say, Denver and Salt Lake City — and a new conference championship game already lined up. For CU to make the move, it would need to give notice to the Big 12 by July 1 of this year or face increasingly onerous financial penalties for providing less notice. Last summer, the SEC signed a 15-year, $2.25 billion deal with ESPN to go with its 15-year, $825 million deal with CBS. The Pac-10's current five- and six-year deals are worth a comparative pittance — about $275 million. So you can see why it would want to add amenities — a football championship game, two big media markets in a new time zone — before sitting down with the TV networks to talk about a new deal.
No. 9 Kansas St. pulls away to rout CU Buffs - Boulder Daily Camera
The Pac-10? Colorado might have to move to the RMAC to get a road victory. The Buffs dropped their 34th consecutive Big 12 road game here on Saturday, a 68-51 loss to No. 9 Kansas State at Bramlage Coliseum Jeff Bzdelik, in his third season, is still left wondering what it will feel like to fly back to Boulder victorious. CU is 0-21 in road conference games under his watch. "I don't think we played with heart," Alec Burks said after scoring 17 points and grabbing a team-high six rebounds for CU. "You have to have heart to play this game, and I felt like we lost it."
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I am starting to think
that the move to the Pac-10 is going to happen. If the divisions split the CA schools and CU gets 5 or 6 million a year from the TV contract we would be silly to turn that down. I don’t like leaving our Big 8 and 12 tradition but it would be in the best interest of the Athletic Department to make the move.
by clbuff28 on Feb 14, 2010 11:59 AM MST via mobile reply actions
How much $ would we lose due to revenue cuts for the next two years if we join the PAC 10?
I ask this question because I’m curious about what the medium term differences would be economically. Barring a miracle, we’re not going to a bowl this year, Hawk will be relieved of his duties and we’ll be back at square 1 with one more year remaining in the Big 12. That rebuilding year would probably not yield a bowl either. During the two years, we would have our revenue chopped in half roughly from the Big 12, but the only revenue we would receive would come from TV contracts right (since we probably won’t make a bowl game)? By joining the PAC 10, would we be able to make up that difference in revenue relatively quickly? I know it’s probably all tied to the TV contract, and I’m certain that even an expanded PAC 10 can’t get the same money as the SEC…
If I've figured any where close
And I give no promises, but I’ve done a lot of reading, but this is pure ball parking numbers.
CU would lose $5 million per year for 2 years OR $10 million dollars. Right now the Pac-10 makes slighly less per year than the Big 12 does. After expansion etc, they expect to make more. (But so does the Big 12, as they too will have a TV contracts coming due as well. But the 12-pac is looking at a bigger % increase) If the Big 12 stayed the same members, and CU,Texas and Missouri say, I would guess that The 12-Pac would generate about $2-5 million more per school per year over the Big 12 (again, just a wild ass guess-timate). I’d say it would be closer to $3 million more a year. So…In four years (or so) CU would make back the money they had lost.
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The Big XII splits bowl revenue equally among the schools
so it doesn’t really matter if CU makes a bowl, except for how it effects home game ticket sales for next year.
by Texas Wahoo on Feb 14, 2010 11:13 PM MST up reply actions
Wow...
That Krieger article is just a rehash of virtually everything that was already discussed here at RR…
The only way this thing works in my mind financially is
if the PAC 10 pays the University the difference of lost revenue due to switching conferences. Most of the schools in the nation wouldn’t survive two years of 50% reduced payouts. We all know Colorado couldn’t in this economy, with this administration and their current financial debt.
If the PAC 10 did pony up, it is a slam dunk in terms of the television markets now in the PAC 10. I will have a post on this later.
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one thing to consider, is that any schools main source of income is not TV revenue, but through ticket sales, and booster donations, mainly from football. $5 million a year loss isn’t much to some schools. Just look at the payrolls of Stoops and Mac Brown, or look at the donations from the Nebraska or Kansas boosters.
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A good point.
And if a large part of the University’s revenue is via ticket sales, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that our poor ticket sales at away games in Ames, Manhattan, KS, etc. would be greatly improved in locations such as LA, Seattle, Berkeley. Not only are they nicer destinations, but cities with a much larger alumni base.
True
But I think you would have more CU alumuni attending away games in places like CA, OR, WA and AZ where there are more alumuni located. And hopefully that would generate more pledges to the University.
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It's certainly possible
Although it could go the other way as well. Many people I know budget a certain amount for athletics and thus if they end up buying more tickets in a given year, they donate less.
I imagine CU will see a large increase in donor rates immediately, but with it tapering off to about the same level after a year or two.
by Texas Wahoo on Feb 16, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
I'm all in for the Pac-12
It just makes too much sense for us not to make the move out west. We can schedule NE, MO, OK & KS in non-conference to keep some of those rivalries alive.
Totally agree with earlier posts that our away games ticket sales would easily increase and so would alumni donations – West coast alums who actually see their school once or twice a year will feel more inclined to give.
by CleBUFFS on Feb 15, 2010 4:28 PM MST via mobile reply actions
If Texas goes to the Big 10, I think this would be a done deal
Also looks like Nebraska is trying to get in with the Big 10 if they can, I say screw the Big 12 and lets go with the Pac-10, so much nicer thinking about traveling to SoCal, Arizona or even Oregon to watch CU versus going to Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, or Oklahoma and most of Texas.
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