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SB Nation Big 12 Roundtable - Week 1

 

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The football season is back and so is the Roundtable. In case you're new here or neglected the roundtables last season, it's when the Big 12 bloggers get together and share their opinions on the same topics. Feel free to add your own opinions in the comments section.

1. Everyone knows the national talking points for each Big 12 team by now (Oklahoma has new linemen! Bill Snyder's back at Kansas State! Baylor might upset somebody!). Give us a storyline for your team that isn't quite getting the attention it should.

I guess the only storylines you ever hear out of Boulder on a national level are "10 wins, no excuses", "It's the Big 12 brother" (still) and of course, "Cody Hawkins is the quarterback because his Dad is the coach" talk... basically everything other than what is taking place on the field.  The quarterback competition is always going to grab most of the headlines but the storyline I will be watching is how the Buffs inexperienced players respond on the defensive line and at wide receiver, both considered unknowns going into the season.

At defensive line Colorado replaces three graduating seniors who underperformed a year ago but still leaves everyone uneasy because those seniors played the majority of the snaps.  No one really knows what to expect from the big guys up front but if they can outpace their expectations Colorado has the talent elsewhere to be a top tier defense in the Big 12.  We should know a lot about the defensive line, which has two true freshmen on the two deep rotation, early on as Colorado State's offensive line is the most experienced group in the country with 129 total starts.

At wide receiver the Buffs can be horrible or they can have the best group of players since Hawkins has been here... and no one has any idea which way it will go. The two most talented wide receivers are Markques Simas and Andre Simmons, but neither has ever taken a snap at the division one level and have established their reputations on potential alone.  To make matters worse, Simmons, a 6'3 215 pound 4.4 running junior college transfer, was not cleared to play until last week so his timetable for impact is unknown and Marques Simas continues to have off field problems. Simas, suspended last season for being ineligible, was also suspended for the first two games of 2009 for "violating team rules". Once again, who knows when we will start seeing an impact from him. With those two players healthy and on the field the Buffaloes have a strong group of wideouts.  Without them we will be looking at Scotty McKnight (former walk-on, led the Buffs in receptions the last two years) , Jason Espinoza (walk-on), Ryan Maxwell (walk-on) and Will Jefferson (true freshman who was an August 2009 signee) as the top four receivers.

Should be interesting...

2. The Big 12 continues to be derided by other conferences as a pass-happy, no defense, made-for-TV free-for-all. The question must be asked, how accurate is this description, and is the perception something of which the conference should be ashamed?

Pass happy?  Yes.  No defense?  Not at all.  Let's look at the conference bowl game results:

Missouri holds Northwestern to 23 points.  Northwestern season average - 24.5
Kansas holds Minnesota to 21 points.  Season average - 23.4
Nebraska holds Clemson to 21 points.  Season average - 25.5
Texas holds Ohio State to 21 points.  Season average - 28.1
Oklahoma holds Florida to 24 points.  Season average - 45.2

Yes, I left out Oklahoma State and Texas Tech because we all know that neither one of those defenses aren't any good.  But otherwise the numbers don't lie.  The Big 12 defenses are fine, the offenses are just that good.

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3. Over the summer, ESPN's Tim Griffin compiled a list of the Top 25 moments of the Big 12 era that stirred up a bit of internal debate. Which moments for your program were either overrated or underrated?

I don't know about underrated or overrated.  But ask almost any Buff fan what their favorite Big 12 moment was and you will get an unanimous response:

12. A Buffalo stampede: Six Chris Brown TDs lead CU to first Big 12 title game.

4. We've seen no less than 30-40 "Best Big 12 Coaches" power rankings in the offseason, but rarely is there the same press for the coordinators. If you had to replace your offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator with coordinators from within the conference, who are you poaching and why?

At offensive coordinator I would start with Kevin Wilson from Oklahoma.  How can you argue with the success that he has had, setting some ridiclous offensive records last year. 

If we were looking at coaching (and excluding recruiting from the argument) then I would take Will Muschamp from Texas.  If recruiting is in the equation I would take Brent Venables instead. There may not be a better recruiter in the conference and that

5. Time to start our weekly Big 12 Power Poll. Rank the Big 12 team from 1 to 12. (Note: This IS a power poll and isn't intended to account for schedule)

1. Oklahoma
2. Texas
3. Kansas
4. Oklahoma State
5. Texas Tech
6. Nebraska
7. Colorado
8. Baylor
9. Missouri
10. Texas A&M
11. Iowa State
12. Kansas State

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I see Helfrich is spreading his magic....

Oregon: 2 posessions=7 yds rushing, 1 yd passing……

by BuffnBigD on Sep 3, 2009 8:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Him and Kelly look like quite the dynamic duo...

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by Jon Woods on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

WOW

I wouldn’t have beleived Helfrich could have made his presence known so quick at Oregon! He’s really brought his “stuff” from Colorado…….

through the half:
first downs zero
rushing 6 (1 safety)
passing 8 (2 for 10)
time of posession 5:06

Man, how does he do it??!!! Maybe we are just now realizing what out offensive problems have been the past couple of years.

Sorry, for the negativism, its been a long day.

by BuffnBigD on Sep 3, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Love it

Lets hope the CU offense has this all behind them

by NYCskibum on Sep 3, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

unreal

Oregon was #7 in the nation last year in PPG.

by nebraskasux on Sep 3, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing...

…as I watched Oregon run that sideways play while backed up into their own endzone, which of course resulted in a safety. I’m just surprised he didn’t call an end-around.

by highlandsbuff on Sep 3, 2009 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

That game was a terrible show by oregon.

Boise State clearly didn’t want to win that game, and yet, Oregon didn’t want to win it more. good for Boise state, and have fun getting second place in the Pac 10 Oregon.

I saw some awfully familiar terrible offensive play calls. its fourth and 14, what should we do? I got it! A screen pass!!! Well done mr Helfrich.

"It's like an owl without a graduation cap; Heartbreaking!!" -Tracy Jordan

by 303buff on Sep 3, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

YES

As a cu fan, losing helfrich to oregon was just adding insult to injury after our last fiesta bowl fiasco and consistently losing recuriting battles those ducks. tonight, oregon embarrassed themselves the whole game, and after, on national tv. LOVE IT> GO BUFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!

by oldturtle87 on Sep 4, 2009 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

How about the 4th and 1, shotgun

draw play…looks familiar. Glad we don’t have that going on any more.

Masoli looks like a completely different quarterback

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by Bob_Bell on Sep 3, 2009 11:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow...Helfrich hasn't lost a beat!

How much did Massoli remind you of Cody last night with tipped passes and what not? It really makes me wonder if Helfrich was our primary problem the last 3 years. I hope so!

by coffmonster on Sep 4, 2009 7:30 AM MDT reply actions  

Massoli's only 5'11", just like our boy!

Jesus that was an ugly game. So was the South Carolina game (I’m off to a rousing start in the pick em pool- 0 for 2). The best game of the night was Ball State/ North Texas.

Oh, and I noticed that Jordan Wynn wasn’t starting for Utah. Wasn’t he named #1?

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons

by Hallux Valgus on Sep 4, 2009 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, he was named number one

then last week I guess Utah’s coach went on a radio show and said he wanted to go with more experience.

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by Bob_Bell on Sep 4, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

I will say this, though-

Oregon’s uniforms looked pretty sharp against the blue turf, and the alternating section colors that the fans came out with was really cool.

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons

by Hallux Valgus on Sep 4, 2009 8:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Oregon's helmet color was awesome

…but I am with you, bad not of actual football being played on the field, unbelievably intriguing drama after though

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by Bob_Bell on Sep 4, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

The all-whites are AWESOME

(minus the wings of course)

Changed my SBN user name from WoodrowWilson.
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by Jon Woods on Sep 4, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

the helmets were almost pearl colored, so sweet

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by Bob_Bell on Sep 4, 2009 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

How can we talk about this game without

Blount’s sucker punch at the end? Stay classy Oregon

by NYCskibum on Sep 4, 2009 8:29 AM MDT reply actions  

Jordan Wynn

Yea, Wynn was named the starter, but I guess he’s either hurt or they had a change of heart. I was looking forward to seeing him play.

by coffmonster on Sep 4, 2009 8:33 AM MDT reply actions  

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