The Finances Behind A Potential Buyout - Understanding the Information
Boy, if their was ever a time to use the term "stuck between a rock and a hard place" now would be the time to use it. The Boulder Daily Camera published the financial details of Colorado Buffaloes head coach Dan Hawkins' potential buyout yesterday and it was certainly a number bigger than many expected and a true sign that this storm might be far from over. More and more, this looks like a helpless situation that was exponentially magnified by the poor move of the athletic department to give Dan Hawkins a contract extension based on little success shown on the field. Compounding the confusion, Mike Bohn admitted after the Toledo loss that the department painted a delusional picture of the current situation regarding the football program:
"We maybe have been guilty of building a façade that maybe didn't reveal the hole that we were in and the severity of the situation we were in associated with the program."
Based on the facade, it was decided that Dan Hawkins deserved an extension, I guess. Let's do the math and breakdown the different pieces of the puzzle and highlight the monumental mistake that was made by the athletic department if the ship doesn't get righted by the current staff. The original term of the contract was set to run through December of 2010. The extension signed by Hawkins in 2008 now makes him the head coach of the Colorado Buffaloes until January 2013. So what is the buyout for each year terminated before January 2013 according to the Daily Camera: $850,000.
Maybe (doubtful) Dan Hawkins turns this ship around and all of this conversation is nullified but if the current level of play continues, the University of Colorado may have a potential $2.5 - $3.0 million buyout to consider (or not consider) depending on the date of termination. I am not suggesting Hawkins be fired, that isn't my call but the main story here is the extension given by the athletic department to Dan Hawkins. If the University wanted to make a change even after the 2010 season when the original contract would have expired, it would cost them 25 extra months of the buyout clause at $70,833 a month or a total of $1,770,833. Simply put, the athletic department may have made a $1.8 million dollar mistake based on little results on the field back in 2008.
If the Buffs wanted to buyout Hawkins tomorrow, assume September 1st, at $70,833 a month and 41 months still to go, the University would have to fork over just under $3.0 million. I don't know which number is more depressing: 41 months or $3.0 million?
| Start | End | # of Months | Total Yearly Buyout | Monthly Buyout | Total Buyout | |
| Original Contract | Sep-09 | Dec-10 | 16 | $ 850,000 | $ 70,833 | $ 1,133,333 |
| New Contract | Sep-09 | Jan-13 | 41 | $ 850,000 | $ 70,833 | $ 2,904,167 |
| Difference | $ 1,770,833 | |||||
According to the Boulder Daily Camera, the athletic department is also broke, explaining the reason for the odd scheduling this season to obtain more television revenue:
The athletic department remains in deeply in debt with the majority of an $8 million loan from the campus and the CU system in 2006 still to be paid off. Part of that debt was caused by the last coaching change when Bohn fired Gary Barnett at the end of the 2005 season and hired Hawkins.
The past debt coupled with the economic times makes a potential buyout seems almost impossible especially given the extension portion would cost the Buffs an addition $1.8 million compared to what it would have if Hawkins was operating under the original contract.
Even if they did buyout Hawkins contract at the end of the season, costing them 37 months of buyout payments or $2.6 million, you have to doubt the administration would allow Colorado to go out and sign a new coach for an average Big 12 salary to make the Buffs competitive again. Can you imagine the scenario for the proposal to the administration? The administration will see a piece of the $4.0 million still owed to Gary Barnett, $2.6 million owed to Dan Hawkins, the large portion of the previous department debt unpaid and add another couple million a year for a new coach; they will probably throw up all over it. Who knows what Mike Bohn's contract buyout will be, if he has one, but based on the numbers above, I doubt the administration would let his department make another $1.8 million mistake so throw that cost on top.
On the flip side of the argument, how will the program look in 2013 if the current level of play continues? It is a scary thought but weighing the financial ramifications of what will happen in 2013 compared to lets call it, $5.0 million of cost right now is a task that probably has to be done. The kicker for the administration here is $5.0 million of cost is much more defined than the assumptions that would have to be made for lost season ticket holders, lost television revenue, lost donations due to a poor product on the field today until 2013.
What does this all mean? I think you can put away the coaching wish lists and the thoughts about getting the next guy in Boulder. If the Buffs go 1 - 11 or 2 - 10 this year and a buyout was necessary, buying out a contract that ended in 2010 compared to 2013 would obviously be easier to discuss. But I struggle to find a logical thought for the administration approving $2.9 million of additional debt plus whatever a new coach costs on top. I don't blame them either considering the financial times we are in. I do blame the parties involved for allowing an extension after two years that would have the potential to cost the University an extra $1.8 million especially considering they were judging success on a "facade", as Mike Bohn puts it.
I understand repairing an image, repairing what Gary Barnett left, re-establishing yourself as a model University to the nation and in potential recruits' home but the days Mike Bohn and Dan Hawkins were hired, they would have told you that rebuilding off the field was important but they were ultimately brought in to win football games and that is how they were to be judged. Any indication of winning football games not being the goal is unacceptable in it's own right. I assume Dan Hawkins didn't take a supposed step up from Boise State to a be in public relations but instead to win national championships at the Big 12 level.
Somewhere along the line, it is easy to conclude that people lost sight of the goal to win football games.
So where do we go from here? We support the players of this team. Coming from a guy who played a little ball in his day and lost the opportunity in college because of injury, the ability to play collegiate sports is very short. You have only so much eligibility and time to play before it is over. The kids deserve the support of the fans even if you don't support how the operation is being run. They chose Colorado to use their four years of eligibility here when they could have gone a multitude of other places.
We have to continue to call out quotes and invalid excuses made by the people who run this program in a constructive manner. Making $1.8 million mistakes leaves you free game in my book, I would certainly lose my job. We are going to do it constructively, though.
Sooner or later, people will form together and money will talked about being raised if it gets to that point. That is probably the only hope for a change if one is warranted and based on the two first games, it may be overdue.
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Scary
But I guess my question is, lets say that Hawkins continues this tail spin, I am sure that the University will lose much more than the 2.6 million, hell that is one decent bowl game, and it doesn’t look like they will get anywhere close to a bowl game. Couple that with the other items you brought up above (TV Revenue, Ticket Sales, Booster Donations), I think the University needs to realise this is basically a toxic loan, it won’t get any better and will cost them more in the long term. It may be painful, but they need to realize they need to get a program that can generate revenue, since obviously the Basketball team can’t bring in anything, but if they decide to sacrifice the cow because they don’t want to pay for the medications to fix it, they are going to wake up very soon and realize they may not even be considered a BCS school for much longer with a potential realignment of the BCS conferences.
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by Broncoman on Sep 14, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It is happening already
Despite living only 25 minutes from folsom, my wife and I won’t be going up to the game this weekend. As a fan I am very limited in how I can voice my opinion on the direction of the program but not buying tickets seems like the best and only solution. If we had a competitive team on the field you can bet your ass we would be there.
I would rather follow the game from home then pay to watch this garbage and I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way.
by NYCskibum on Sep 14, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about season tix holders like me
Considering sending them back, guess that’s all I can do.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 15, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you get a refund on them?
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by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I very much doubt it
Send them to me, I’d at least go to the games not on TV :-)
by nebraskasux on Sep 16, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not that I don't want to go to the games
I’ve missed 2 home games since ‘87, and I don’t like to throw money away, of course, by not using tickets I’ve already paid for. I “bleed black and gold” and WANT to support my team, believe me.
I want to go to the games- that’s not the issue. I’m just thinking about what message it’d send if people didn’t show up. Of course such things are only effective when done en masse, rather than on an individual basis.
It just sucks sitting there watching…. THAT, you know? {sigh}
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 16, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is Bohn's contract status, how much would the University have to pony up?
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by Broncoman on Sep 14, 2009 9:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
think he is only under contract through 2010
but at this pace that seems like an eternity
by NYCskibum on Sep 14, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it does come to the point that
coach hawk is about to get fired, i have the feeling that he would recognize this, and resign. I don’t know why, but i feel like he is the sort of guy who would take a bullet for the program. It just seems consistant with his character. That may just be wishful thinking, but thta just seems like the sort of man he is.
Damn, i wanted him to have a legacy in Colorado so badly…
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by 303buff on Sep 14, 2009 9:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't take 3 more years.
I guess I will just draw a Longhorn on my CU diploma and pretend to be a UT fan for the next decade or so.
by coffmonster on Sep 14, 2009 10:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point I'm just going to start buying a powerball ticket every week
and hope for the best.
by NoVABuff on Sep 14, 2009 10:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this is scary, and it certainly does fall right on Bohn...
However, my suggestion to Mr. Bohn last year might now be a solution for his own mess: At one of last year’s equally dismal games I suggested that it was time to bring some enthusiasm and finght back to the program and that he should “suggest” hiring Bienemy as the o-cordinator. At this point it would cost a lot, but let’s assume less than the $3 million, and with an associate head coach title, a nice paycheck and the “next in line tag” maybe they could attempt to at least salvage something from this mess! Otherwise take the hit and clean them both out!!
by SFBuff36 on Sep 14, 2009 11:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A bowl game isn’t out of the question, everyone seem to abandon ship very early. Myself included after what took place friday night. After letting the storm settle a bit. I truly believe we can’t play any worse. If the coaches can get these kids on the same page here soon the yes heads will roll. Coming off a huge disappointment against CSU in a very short week and what seem like Toledo reading our defensive play calling(they had an answer to every defensive switch/rotation cover what ever they knew what to call). There is too much talent on this team for me to give up now. It’s 100% on the coaches now. Greg Brown and Ron Collins mostly.
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by trayrenfro on Sep 15, 2009 12:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like everybody is gonna give up?
No please. At least try to watch 3 or 4 more. It’s hard to say losing first game is not a disaster but it doesn’t mean we have lost all our hope. I would say getting better is the most critical thing I want and hopefully, probably, the game vs WYOMING is another turn point.
Actually comparing with O-team, I was more shocked about the performance of our D-team. I tried to persuaded myself those kids still got potential to bring into play and it will be sometime. Let’s pray together that they can get better and better in the future and we won’t face with this fucking financial problem again.
Anyway, I won’t give up expecting something better, and I will take all my friends to folsom. I simply can not leave it.
by lk_517 on Sep 15, 2009 2:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think too many people are ready to give up
but their is that fear that this might only be the beginning to the agony. 41 months remain on the contract, that could be a long time if this sort of play continues.
I think we are all hoping that his thing gets turned around and we can all say we were wrong about this current staff
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by irish1611 on Sep 15, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
personally, giving up simply isn't an option. And I mean that on an emotional level.
I don’t have any other teams that I follow on this kind of gutteral level. The Broncos won, and both high school teams I follow won this weekend. Only CU lost. And the weekend was still a net loss. That’s just the way it is. CU trump all. Which makes the last two weeks all that much worse.
I’m not at all proud of it.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons
by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly... my family has had Broncos season tickets
since 1968, I am a die hard fan but my weekends have been pretty shot after these last two weekends with the Buffs play. I want my college football saturday’s enjoyment back, you know those days where you wake up at 8am MT, watch ESPN college gameday, and don’t stop until 11pm watching PAC 10 football on FSN. Its just not as fun with the Buffs being this way.
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by irish1611 on Sep 15, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
even worse, the game was on a Friday
meaning we had to see that damn score on the crawl all day Saturday.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons
by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn’t agree more, i had zero modivation to get up and watch gameday last weekend…
by Zonabuff on Sep 15, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much sums up my feelings, too
Drives my wife crazy that a Buffs loss more or less ruins my weekend.
by highlandsbuff on Sep 15, 2009 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you
While I really love and enjoy Buffs football, I would say the Broncos matter more to me at this point, but it does pain me to see the state of the Buffs and it is a definate downer. I don’t think the fact that they lost hurts me, it is the fact that they got their ass kicked by teams they should of beat and beat easily. That this is year four and the program has regresed so much, and considering CU is the only school in the state with a real shot at a BCS game, it pains me to think I will have to endure Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska, and the likes playing in those games before CU makes it back.
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by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
would absolutely like to wake up 6 weeks from now and say we were wrong
but in reality I don’t see it happening.
but I don’t see it happening….
We are four years in after Hawk took over a program that won the big 12 north the year before. I don’t think its unfair to say the program has regressed from the early ’00s on Hawks watch.
Rich Rod has MIchigan back in the top 25 after going 3-9 last season
Nick Saban had Alabama in a BCS bowl game his second season
Butch Davis has turned around North Carolina into a top 25 team
Paul Johnson improving the program at Gtech his first season
and where are we? Looking down the barrel at another 2-10 season? How patient are we expected to be?
by NYCskibum on Sep 15, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the same alabama team that the Colorado Buffaloes
almost came back to beat in a bowl game in 2007. Talk about two teams going in completely opposite directions.
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by irish1611 on Sep 15, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That buyout is a nonstarter in my opinion
also this:
“you have to doubt the administration would allow Colorado to go out and sign a new coach for an average Big 12 salary "
I was under the impression that Hawkins was one of the lower paid coaches in the conference. That might have changed with the latest round of hirings, but I sincerely doubt that our coach’s salary will ever be “average.”
Ron Collins has to go. Period. We are constantly hamstrung by the limitations of TABOR. Well, here is the benefit. When Collins came from Boise, that program was a team that could score with anyone but couldn’t defend. Since then, our team has consistently proven that they can’t defend, while Boise has turned into a strong defensive squad. That’s not a coincidence. And if Hawkins won’t fire him because of loyalty or whatever, then Bohn needs to play hardball. There’s simply no track record to believe that he can coordinate the defense.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons
by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 8:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
That’s a start, at any rate.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 15, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does CU keep putting themselves in this position
First it’s Barnett (are we still paying that guy?) now it’s flippin Hawkins.
Unfreakinbelieveable. Must be nice to have that kind of job security.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 15, 2009 9:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the case for every coach at every university
Forever. Our issues are magnified simply because CU doesn’t have any money to shoulder the buyout.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons
by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Bohn's statement?
“We maybe have been guilty of building a façade that maybe didn’t reveal the hole that we were in and the severity of the situation we were in associated with the program.”
Huh, really now. So what you’re saying is that you were deliberately deceiving the fan base? Interesting admission to make at this time.
I guess looking like a liar, is much better than looking like the incompetent fool that you do now, eh Mike?
This is nothing more than spin and an attempt to stem the complaints flooding in against Hawkins AND himself. Bohn’s trying to keep his job, nothing more.
Both Bohn and Hawkins need to get on the first bus out of town.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 15, 2009 9:10 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's true
part of Bohn’s job is to put a positive spin on our situation, both for fundraing purposes and for recruiting purposes. I’ve been giving the athletic department a lot of leeway for a long time because I strongly believe that we were in much more dire straights than anyone associated with the university would admit to publicly.
But now I’m frustrated because none of the coaches seem willing to admit that there’s anything wrong. Look, admitting there’s a problem after giving up 54 points to Toledo isn’t a sign of weakness. It’s simply acknowledging reality. Saying otherwise is basically just calling every single fan an idiot, because it’s as plain as day to all of us that there’s a problem.
The defensive play calling, for four years now, has been spectacularly callow. For the most part the offensive play calling has been the same way. If something doesn’t work one time, we immediately go in the tank and play overly cautious football, which in my opinion equals “death by a thousand paper cuts” football. That means Sumler gets carries instead of Scott, and McKnight gets touches instead of Simmons, and We consistently rush 3 because we’re afraid of getting beat deep. That’s no way to win. We’ve been proving that for four years. So don’t tell me that there’s not a problem. So effing frustrating.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons
by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This whole “we’re THIS CLOSE” baloney is what makes me feel like I’m seeing Bohn on SuperSpin. Sure, that’s his job and what else is he gonna say, but that doesn’t make it any easier to swallow.
I’m a guy that thought after we signed DScott “OK, here we go- 2009, THAT’LL be a year to make some noise!” and instead…
I’m just a fan, I know that. But, I’m a fan that’s watched a lot of CU football, and football in general, and that team is NOT “THIS close”. That is a badly coached, poorly prepared football team.
And THAT is what concerns me.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 15, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you fix it?
Become pro-active, and help the athletic department dig themselves out of the hole they’ve created.
Begin a grass-roots movement among the fanbase, and help the athletic department come up with the money to facilitate change.
:et’s say y’all have 20,000 season ticket holders. Ask them to donate $10 extra per home game. If you have 6 home games, like this season, that means an extra $1.2 million in revenue. If you have 30,000 fans make this commitment (who says you need to limit it to just season ticket holders?), you have $1.8 million in revenue. That is enough money to buyout Hawkins’ contract for a season, and begin to build funds to hire his replacement. Hell, if you can get fans to commit to doing this for three to four seasons, you have his buyout covered.
This will take organization, and will be a fan uprising unlike any other seen in college football, but it asks you a basic question: How committed to your team are you? Are you willing to donate $60 a year to facilitate change?
Trfuse to deal with Bohn, and talk only to the university president. If you represent seven figures worth of money coming in, they’ll listen to you.
The bottom line in this situation is that as football fans, we wait ALL OFFSEASON LONG for footbal season to start. To wait for all that time and to look forward to it and then to put up with the performance y’all are watching is unbearable.
You need to ask yourself how willing you are to be a solution to the problem, how committed you are, and if you’re willing to do something to effect change. Y;all could be an effective instrument for good in this whole situation, if you want to.
by Beergut on Sep 16, 2009 1:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
One could make the argument that people that hold season tickets have shown their commitment by purchasing said season tickets and thus and already pay into this fund, so really it’s more than the measly $60 you propose. In some cases, it’s considerably more.
Seems to me that it’s very easy to suggest that those already on the hook, should give even more. Of course, that begs the question “Where does it end?”.
Never, for the “truly committed” fan?
Interesting suggestion though, if somewhat impractical.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 16, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry for the typos
shoulda previewed before posting
by Beergut on Sep 16, 2009 1:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Bohn had no choice about Hawkins' contract extension
The decision to extend or not extend Hawkins’ contract was really a keep/fire decision last year. At most, Bohn could have only deferred that decision until the end of last season. Without that contract extension, Hawkins would have looked like a lame duck during last year’s recruiting season, and recruits would have turned away, looking for a more stable situation. (Just look at how Colorado’s verbal commitments are viewing the situation now.) That eventually would sealed his fate.
Perhaps Bohn could have gotten away with a 2 year extension, which would have lessened the problem the Buffs find themselves in today. But if Colorado had done nothing last season, Dan Hawkins would have been a “dead coach walking” ever since the end of last season.
by Husker Mike on Sep 16, 2009 5:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My bad...
…I read it again and realized it was essentially a 2 year extension (really 25 months), but stretches into January 2013 instead of the December 2012. Actually a smart move so that Hawkins could say he was under contract through 2013 (just not the 2013 season).
by Husker Mike on Sep 16, 2009 5:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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