Who's our next coach (gave us a lot of choices)
by roxbombers on Sep 13, 2009 12:00 AM MDT
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Was too depressed last night and did a little research but had work, so here goes....
1. Charlie Strong
- UF Defensive Coordinator
Resume Years Title Location 2008-Present Defensive Coordinator, Linebacker Coach & Associate Head Coach Florida 2005-2007 Co-Defensive Coordinator, Linebacker Coach & Assistant Head Coach Florida 2003-2004 Defensive Coordinator & Defensive End Coach Florida 1999-2002 Defensive Coordinator South Carolina 1995-1998 Defensive Line Coach Notre Dame 1991-1994 Assistant Head Coach & Defensive Tackle Coach Florida
Has been in college his entire career. Has been a DC in the SEC since 1999. Knows how to build a beast of a defense at florida has been in command of that defense since '03. I honestly believe he would jump at just about any opportunity to become a head coach because he has admitted that he does believe he hasn't gotten a college job because he is married to a white women.
Strong, a 48-year-old black man, shook his head affirmatively when an Orlando Sentinel reporter asked him if his interracial marriage was a factor in getting passed over for jobs, including one at a Southern school a few years ago. Strong, whose wife is white, said he heard that too many times for it to be rumor.
"Everybody always said I didn't get that job because my wife is white," Strong said at media day Monday, as the Gators prepare to face Oklahoma in the FedEx BCS National Championship Game. "If you think about it, a coach is standing up there representing the university. If you're not strong enough to look through that [interracial marriage], then you have an issue."
I just don't know if he feels like he would move out West to join the Big 12. Besides being a great DC battling in the SEC, hes is a force on the recruiting trail. I have been pretty critical of Hawkins of not really focusing on Texas choosing to go more to California for his recruiting and while this also could be a problem with Strong, I feel much better about getting florida prospects over Cali, that is if they are ok with the cold.
Looking at his rivals page he has really only recruited Defensive players but with the success of Florida and his recruiting ability, he is a beast on the recruiting front.
*Also a huge note personally for me is that he recruited Darrell Scott for UF so I would assume that Darrell would be ok with the move. No one player is bigger than the program but it certainly would help.
At 49 years old I truly believe that if hes ok with the weather in Boulder if the program outreaches too him, that Strong is ready to take our program to the next level.
If for some reason it isn't Strong here are some other coaches..
***These aren't in any order****
Troy Calhoun- Current AF coach
Resume Years Title Location 2007-Present Head Coach Air Force 2006 Offensive Coordinator & Quarterback Coach Houston Texans 2005 Assistant Head Coach Denver Broncos 2004 Assistant Coach & Special Teams Coordinator Denver Broncos 2003 Assistant Coach Denver Broncos 2001-2002 Offensive Coordinator Wake Forest 1997-2000 Offensive Coordinator & Quarterback Coach Ohio 1995-1996 Quarterback Coach Ohio 1993-1994 Recruiting Coordinator & Assistant Coach Air Force 1989-1990 Assistant Coach Air Force
Right now I'm not even sure if Colorado is a step above AF. But every time I hear this guy in an interview he impresses me more and more. With his history with AF I think its a bit of a dream shot, but hey I thought Jeff was a pipe dream too. This guy flat out knows coaching, with as much experience as he does. His recruiting ability would be the only thing in question as his NFL OC & QB coach with the Texans is far above any type of coaching we have right now
Turner Gil
Resume Years Title Location 2007-Present Head Coach & Offensive Coordinator Buffalo 2005-2006 Head Coach Buffalo 2004-2005 Assistant Coach Green Bay Packers 2002-2004 Assistant Head Coach & Receivers Coach Nebraska 1992-2002 Quarterback Coach Nebraska
I'm too young to remember him as a Husker, but I know many member have ruled him out because of his connections. All I know is the dude has turned around buffalo. BUFFALO!!
Jeremy Bates
Resume Years Title Location 2009-Present Quarterback Coach & Assistant Head Coach (Offense) USC 2008 Quarterback Coach Denver Broncos 2006-2007 Wide Receivers Coach & Quarterback Coach Denver Broncos 2005 Quarterback Coach New York Jets
The young pup out of this group at 33, not sure he's ready or willing to take over a program but just wanted to throw his name over there because if hes good enough to be calling plays for the Denver Broncos and USC he's good enough for me. Also didn't like he got thrown out of Denver, but who knows.
Dave Logan
I remember his name came up several times during the last search. Still not sure whether there wasn't any interest on his part or the universities. He graduated from CU so I assume the interest is there on his part. This would set up a direct pipeline to Mullen, a top 5 program in the state every yr with at least a couple D-1 athletes.
Gary Patterson
Resume Years Title Location 2000-Present Head Coach TCU 1998-2000 Defensive Coordinator & Safety Coach TCU 1996-1997 Defensive Coordinator & Safety Coach New Mexico 1995 Secondary Coach Navy 1992-1994 Secondary Coach Utah State 1989-1991 Defensive Coordinator Sonoma State 1988 Linebacker Coach Pittsburg State 1987 Defensive Coordinator Cal Lutheran 1986 Linebacker Coach Cal-Davis 1983-1984 Linebacker Coach Tennessee Tech
Has a ton of experience as you see, and has TCU pretty regularly in the BCS buster talk. Has been there at TCU for 11 years so I'm not sure if his family is comfortable there or whether he would want a shot at Big 12 football. Obviously already has connections set up throughout Texas.
Resume Years Title Location 2007-Present Head Coach Cincinnati 2004-2006 Head Coach Central Michigan 1991-2003 Head Coach Grand Valley State 1989-1990 Defensive Coordinator & Recruiting Coordinator Grand Valley State 1987-1988 Secondary Coach Grand Valley State
Nothing flashy about this guy, all he does is win. As bad as it hurts me to say this, I don't think CU is a step up from Cincy right now for him to move. Unless they don't have an AD worth anything, facilites that are quickly falling behind everyone and no big funders....wait thats us.
Alright everyone get your pipe out for this dream. Here's the only possible thing that could save us. His long term contract is being paid for by the broncos whether hes working or not. If he is working we could pay him a small amount and the broncos would be paying the difference making it affordable for him to come here. I would put the chance of this move at a 0.000000000002% chance, I think Mike will have his choice of 2-3 NFL HC job next offseason, but hey, we need a dream right now.
Going through all these coaches the same thing kept coming up. How big of step up is the HC job at CU from their current positions? A college that doesn't have a huge fan base. A college that doesn't have as dedicated fan base as the nat'l powers. A college that doesn't have the facilites. A college that doesn't have the funds for anything. I think that to be able to pull a coach we are going to have to include a provision in their contract about getting new facilities or an opt out clause which they did to pull Jeff, and might end up costing them.
The one thing is where is our Boone Pickens, where is our Nike founder for Oregon Phil Knight. We do have someone that could 
via money.cnn.com
Tom Marsico, we all need to write him very nice letters to at least help us out with this 2.4 mil buyout we have to deal with before we get started with anything.
I hadn't really heard his name on these boards before but I did some research and man, hes one hell of a human being.
Beside being a CU grad(actually CU turned down his med school app and turned to investment and everything has been up from there. He has donated a ton of money all over the state trying to help different causes.
He actually donated 1.5 mil back when Hawkins was announced as head coach for a multi-sport indoor practice
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as much as I hate great football stadiums having their names changed
because of some stupid corporate sponser I would be all for changing Folsom Field to Marsico Field if he bought out Hawkins and Bohn like tomorrow :-) Kelly would be my choice out of the ones you mentioned.
plus I think he makes close to 2.0 million a year
so that probably eliminates Colorado from paying that much
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Les Miles???
and you think Kelly is unrealistic? ;-) There is a long, long list of people we’ve overlooked in the past that have much better jobs now.
by nebraskasux on Sep 13, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Good list....
I don’t know how realistic getting a new coach will be. Sad because there are some good names on this list. You can add Sumlin from Houston. He is a coach with roots to OU and obviously has Texas recruiting ties.
I like Charlie Strong, certainly been in a winning program. Would love Patterson, anytime you can get a coach from a Texas school I think that is a good start plus he wins. I don’t know if Patterson would leave TCU for Colorado though, same goes with Sumlin. See my comment on Kelly, he would probably have to take a pay cut to coach at Colorado.
Right now, it just isn’t a great job at Colorado. Financially strapped department who can’t even get a practice facility built, let alone buy out contracts. The TABOR laws kill the ability to bring in great assistants because you can only give them one year deals.
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You said it...
The CU job is not appealing right now. We need money and better support to be a real player in the Big 12. The football program looks more like a Mountain West or WAC program. I hate to say this, but Hawkins will be back next year, unless a donor steps up behind the scenes to pay him off. With that said, Hawkins is rather unpredictable. Is it possible that he resigns? Probably not, as I’m sure he would lose a lot of money.
TABOR
If TABOR is really the reason we can’t get great assistants, that a bill needs to be proposed to change this law. I really think its the assistants that are killing us right now as I’m not sure if the kids are actually getting the coaching they need. If 18 and huge and fast, that’s great, but you likely don’t know the techniques that you need to succeed at the D-1/FBS level.
Why hasn’t this been done yet, or has it been tried and failed to pass? Why doesn’t coach Hawk’s contract fall under TABOR?
by BuffulanceMan on Sep 15, 2009 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions
there is no way that happens
Look, because of TABOR, the state of Colorado leads the nation in lousy roads and is something like 47th in education spending. If you can’t get support to fix the roads and educate the children, there’s no way you’re going to get support for changing it in order to get better assistant coaches for a football team, especially a team that struggles to get public support at any level.
Hawkins does fall under the TABOR rules. Every publicly funded state institution has a certain number of multi year contracts they are allowed to hand out. Everyone else operates as an at-will employee. Typically at CU, the multi year contracts go to the President, the AD, the football coach, and the men’s and women’s basketball coaches.
Weirdly- Troy Calhoun is mentioned above as a potential HC candidate, but he’s actually in a better position at AFA. Since they’re federally funded, they don’t fall under TABOR restrictions.
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by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't the president usually have tenure?
Does TABOR actually prevent the tenure system? If so, how does CU get any good professors?
I'm not sure
I googled around looking for answers, but my eyes got sleepy trying to read that much legalese and I couldn’t find any targeted analysis.
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by Hallux Valgus on Sep 15, 2009 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
He just got to SMU right?
He would def help getting us into Hawaii as far as recruiting goes. But Imagine his job at SMU is pretty cush 5 years @ $2mil for a team that has very low expectations.
Some more potential coaches we probably couldn't afford,
but that I would like to see at CU:
Phil Fulmer (Tenn head coach 1992-2008)
Tommy Tuberville (Ole Miss head coach 1995-1998, Auburn head coach 1999-2008)
Jon Gruden (Oakland Raiders head coach 1998-2001, Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach 2002-2008)
Ed Orgeron (Ole Miss head coach 2005-2007)
David Cutcliffe (Ole Miss head coach 1998-2004, Duke head coach 2008-present)
Karl Dorrell (UCLA head coach 2003-2007, CU WR coach 1992-1993, CU OC 1995-1998)
Not sure you could get one of the good'ole boys
Not sure guys like Fulmer or Tuberville would be willing to come west. I would imagine the culture shock would be a bit much. My guess is they will be holding out for an opening in the SEC or ACC.
I didn't include Orgeron
I don’t think he’s wanting another HC job right now.
He tried to do the rebuild thing at Ole’ Miss and did it well seeing Houston Nutt’s success but I think he knows that Tenn is going to be something special and wants to be a part of it.
Dude just pulled 2 of the top 3 DE/DT from FSU to commit to Tenn, 1 a 5* 1 a 4* on scout and just got a 5* WR from OK, they are going to be stacked there quickly at Tenn
^this.
Karl Dorrell is exactly like Hawkins. Can’t reach out to the fan base, alumni, or anybody, including recruits. Just more of the same.
+1
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Maybe if Bohn wasn't such a f*ck up
we could have signed Christensen from Missouri. Can’t dispute his offensive mind…
Props to the AD at Wyoming.
Thoughts on New Coach
I want to add a coach to the list: Shawn Watson.
Watson was the OC under Barnett for a number of years and had great success in Boulder. He is currently the OC at Nebraska and their offense has been a juggernaut over the last few years. He would be cheap and is well connected around the nation and especially in Big 12 country.
DO NOT HIRE Cabral. The staff needs to be purged. It is ugly in Boulder and without a doubt the team is in turmoil. No staff members should be retained. NONE!
Bienemy? Seriously. No. Lacks experience and is not head coach material. Good assistant, but shouldn’t be in the conversation.
Strong... or Dungy?
Was unaware of Charlie Strong until this post – but from what you’ve provided, he instantly went to the top of my list. Being with a successful BIG COLLEGE (not Boise State) program, he knows what needs to happen to win.
I also like Dungy just because he’s a proven winner and is a great guy & I think would fit well in Boulder. However, I thought Hawk would fit well in Boulder, so what do I know.
Honestly, I wish we could get strong today. I’m scared Hawk is going to go 7-5, or even 6-6 and keep his job.
Kyle Whittingham
Should be our #1 target.
Shannahan
Colorado guy, chance to do something new. Gotta be one of the first calls we make.
this is a fantastic post
I think it’s ultimately futile, because I doubt any of these people would want the CU job (for reasons, see other threads), but I do a LOT of thinking about CU football, and Charlie Strong never once entered my mind. Great, well researched and informed thread. This is definitely what’s right about CU football.
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