CSU Coach Steve Fairchild Calls CU "Silly" - Buff Bites
First things first, I am with Dan Hawkins on everything he said yesterday at the annual Colorado Coaches Lunch in Colorado Springs yesterday. When looking over all of these topics that were discussed, keep these two questions in the back of your head, "Does it really make sense for CU financially, for national exposure, for recruiting and their ability to be successful (wins/losses)" and since their are always two sides to every debate, "Who really wins in the discussed scenario: the Colorado Buffaloes or the Air Force Falcons/Colorado St. Rams?" The main thing is college sports is not a charity, it is a business and Dan Hawkins is in the business of getting wins. That's not superiority complex, that's not CU being scared of in-state teams, that is the landscape of college football right now, get wins, give yourself every advantage you can possibly give yourself to be successful.
Steve Fairchild of Colorado St. provided plenty of sound bites that should provide Dan Hawkins a little more motivation to prepare his team for week one.
Fairchild Makes Another Push for Invesco Field Game - Boulder Daily Camera
"Dan's got the microphone next, but I'm going to say it again: The game should be played in Denver for the next 100 years," Fairchild said.
Fairchild then goes onto say this according to the Pueblo Chieftain:
"CU moving the game to Boulder (this year) is just silly. And it would be silly for us to play the game in Fort Collins," Fairchild said. "When it's in Denver, it's more than a game, it's an event. Walking out on the field and seeing 35,000 CU fans and 35,000 CSU fans is pretty amazing. "It makes a lot more sense financially for both schools to play it in Denver. I can't believe this was even an issue, but hopefully it will be played in Denver for the next 100 years."
Then I think Steve Fairchild compares the Colorado St. vs. Colorado game to Oklahoma vs. Texas, arguably a top 10 rivalry in all of sports. I really can't tell what he is talking about here but he has the microphone and his forum, so why not, right?:
"Moving the game back to Boulder makes no sense. I don't care if it's Oklahoma-Texas, there's not a better rivalry in college football. It's more than just a game. It's an event."
No coach, it makes A LOT more sense for Colorado St. financially as noted in this article back in early June by Kyle Ringo:
He said the difference between playing in Denver and playing in Fort Collins at Hughes Stadium (capacity 34,400) is approximately $600,000 to $800,000 depending on the year. CU also makes significantly more with the game in Denver.
Yes, the University of Colorado receives a boost monetarily but not as much as Colorado St. does. If you agree to give the Buffs a greater split of the money to represent the same percentage increase you receive from doing the game, then we are answering that question above: "Who really wins in the discussed scenario: the Colorado Buffaloes or the Air Force Falcons/Colorado St. Rams?"
Fairchild also threw in this jab about how CU wouldn't schedule CSU when he was a player:
Fairchild played for the Rams from 1978-80, but he said he never got to experience the rivalry from a player's standpoint.
"They wouldn't play us back then, I don't believe," he said. "They wouldn't schedule us."
Back to the Camera article:
Hawkins' preference is to make it a road game for the Rams every other year. He did play along with the routine a little bit, however, and quipped that perhaps the Buffs would be willing to scrimmage Fairchild's team in Greeley before the season. "Anytime you can play at home it's great. It doesn't matter if it's basketball or football, playing on the road is tough," Hawkins said. "Although for us it's a quasi-neutral environment at Denver, it's not your home spot. So I think there's always a little bit of a comfort level playing at home, no question. From that standpoint, it should be fun."
I understand playing the game in Denver, I like to go to the game in Denver but again, Hawkins needs to win, the Colorado fans want to win, if this gets us a better shot at winning, that is all that matters because that is all that matters in Dan Hawkins world right now.
Trivial Matters Stand in Way of CU-AFA Game | The Colorado Spring Gazette
Here we go with the handouts again. The Colorado Springs Gazette really, I mean really wants the Air Force vs. Colorado game to happen. This is one of three articles that have been their paper the last couple of months:
Fans want the game. The athletic directors want the game. Air Force coach Troy Calhoun wants the game. Colorado coach Dan Hawkins doesn't want the game, but we'll just ignore him.
"Are we," Hawkins asked, "obligated to play the two in-state teams and not have flexibility in our nonconference schedule?"
"Everyone wants us to play Air Force now. Guys, how many blows to the head can I take?" said Hawkins, who was seated next to Falcons head coach Troy Calhoun at the luncheon.
You better talk to your A.D. coach Hawk because he wants the game. Hawkins made it clear yesterday that he is none to excited about the potential of playing two in-state teams a year and I couldn't agree more. Count me in as one of those fans who doesn't want to play two in-state teams. There are more reasons not to like this situation than preparing for the triple option or losing to two in-state teams which the author confidently brings up as a possibility. Part of playing outside of Colorado is exposure on a national level, something that games against Colorado State and Air Force don't do as much as playing West Virginia, Florida State, California, Georgia...all geared toward recruits seeing the Buffs play the big boys.
To the writer of the article and anybody who thinks Hawkins and Co. are shying away from competition, look into the future, look into that past three years and tell me if their is a Big 12 team who played a harder non-conference slate. This thought process isn't driven by playing weaker schedules.
The Buffs only have four games out of conference, fixing two of them allows little wiggle room for the Buffs to be creative with scheduling in the future plus their will always be the debate as to where the Buffs will play these games (Denver, Colorado Springs, Boulder, Fort Collins). Drop Colorado State and then we can play Air Force. I am with Coach Hawkins on this one. I am an Air Force fan but in this situation, what do the Buffs gain by playing Colorado State and Air Force in the same season? Nothing compared to what Air Force and Colorado State gain. Remember my questions above.
Second point, can we get Mike Bohn and Dan Hawkins to present a united front? I think it is embarrassing that the athletic director is not in agreement with the head coach on where he wants his football team to play his games. It makes Dan Hawkins look like a bad guy when the athletic director takes the "politically correct" approach. Again, I am glad coach Hawk didn't cave to the pressure and logically spoke about these issues as what is good for his team.
Hawkins: Buffs Can Make Big 12 Title Run - Colorado Daily
Despite a 13-24 record through his first three seasons in Boulder, Hawkins didn't shy away when a reporter asked him Thursday if the Buffs were in position to make a run at the Big 12 title .
"Do we have the potential to do that? Yes, we do," Hawkins said after a long pause. "But you've got to get hot, you've got to get some confidence going, you've got to avoid injuries. And then you never know how those things will go. But I think we're definitely getting closer to knocking on the door."
more Colorado Football links after the jump...
Dan Hawkins Refuses to Answer Questions About Josh Smith
Is there any chance Smith could change his mind and return to CU? "I'm not going there," Hawkins said. So, you don't expect to have Smith on the roster? "I'm not going there," Hawkins said.
Big 12 RB Profiles - AthlonSports.com
We are here to provide Darrell Scott and Rodney Stewart more and more bulletin board material for this season. AthlonSports put out their Big 12 fantasy football ratings for runningbacks which has Rodney Stewart at #10 and Darrell Scott at #15. Ahead of both players included Roy Helu Jr (Nebraska Cornhuskers), Baron Batch (Texas Tech Red Raiders), Jake Sharp (Kansas Jayhawks), Jay Finley (Baylor Bears), true freaking freshman Christine Michael (Texas A&M Aggies). Ahead of Darrell Scott at 11 - 14: Cody Johnson (Texas Longhorns), Alexander Robinson (Iowa St. Cyclones), Keith (who?) Toston (Oklahoma St. Cowboys) and Mossis Madu (Oklahoma Sooners).
Here is what they said about Stewart and Scott:
10. Rodney Stewart, Colorado Buffaloes (SO) — Bye Week — 4 — No. 76 overall RB A freshman back was expected to steal the show in Boulder last year, but his last name was supposed to be Scott, not Stewart. As a five-foot-seven freshman, not much was expected of Stewart, but he ended up leading the team in rushing. He produced three 100-yard efforts, notching 107 against Florida State, 141 against Kansas State and 166 against West Virginia. The Buffaloes were hindered by offensive line struggles last year and with more stability up front, Stewart and Scott should have a better season. Stewart gets the nod as the starter, but don't be surprised if Scott eventually assumes the No. 1 role. If you draft one, be sure to grab the other as a handcuff.
15. Darrell Scott, Colorado Buffaloes (SO) — Bye Week — 4 — No. 87 overall RB Scott entered last year with high expectations, but was a disappointment. The California native was the No. 3 player in the 2008 Athlon Consensus 100, but battled through injuries and was unable to unseat Rodney Stewart as the team's No. 1 back. However, 2009 is a new season and hopes are high Scott will blossom in his second season on campus. There's plenty of potential with this sophomore, but Stewart is still in the mix. Expect Scott to be better in his second year and he's a solid sleeper pick for those looking for an intriguing RB4 or RB5 pick.
CU gashes Nebraska for 380 rushing yards in No. 12 memory - Big 12 - ESPN
Ah yes, the 62 - 36 game finally makes it on Tim Griffin's list of top moments in the Big 12 history.
CU gashes Nebraska for 380 rushing yards in No. 12 memory
The Pueblo Chieftain :: CU coach tells youth to set a goal, reach it
Dan Hawkins, the often jovial and boisterous head football coach at the University of Colorado, spoke to some 100 kids and staff Thursday at the Boys and Girls Ranch in El Pueblo.
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Big Games + Big Exposure = Big Recruits and More Wins
I was at the function yesterday and heard it straight from Fairchild. He made two references to the game being played in Boulder and both were in jest and made the audience laugh. And yes, I know there was some strategy being played on the part of CSU. That said, playing in Denver will help attract recruits who want a big stage. This will ultimately lead to more wins… CSU gets more out of the actual game but CU, CSU and the entire state of Colorado WINS when it is played in Denver.
I am a BUFF first but I also like my little sister to the north.
BTW, I am not Mayor Hickenlooper.
by COSBUFF on Jun 26, 2009 9:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude your totally right
I think its hilarious that were jerking CSU around like this, but in a greater colorado sense, its dumb. the game is something the whole state can get into, and having it in the virtual center of everything colorado kicks it up a notch.
Fairchild is right after all, theres nothing like the sea of Gold in the south corner of Mile High Stadium, and the reservoir of green, yellowish gold, some white in the north corner. Its an awesome game, awesome rivalry, and a neutral site makes it even that much more epic.
"It's like an owl without a graduation cap; Heartbreaking!!" -Tracy Jordan
by 303buff on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bohn
We know Bohn will guarantee CU 6 home games, which is great. I think we’ve seen that he’s therefore willing to do what’s best for CU & won’t bow to any political pressure he’s feeling. Therefore, I’m not worried at all about this AFA/CSU crap. Let them b1tch and moan all they want. We hold ALL the chips & Bohn knows it. We can do what we want – who cares what they and their fans think, right? I mean, as long as Bohn & Hawkins don’t make make a Boneheaded (or should I say Bohnheaded) statement to the media that CU is better than these schools, bla bla bla, we’ll be fine in the media and we won’t dig our own grave like Barnett did.
I think the fact that no details have emerged about any future CU/CSU game, and the fact that no AFA game is even set, Bohn has shown that he is waiting for them to come to our table, not the other way around. And as your post alluded to, that’s the way it should be.
by BuffulanceMan on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I still vote for dropping the CSU game all together
Would much rather see an annual game against Utah.
When looking at recruiting there is nothing to be gained from playing CSU and everything to lose. When was the last time we have lost a recruit to CSU or Air Force? If we want to be on the national stage we should be playing a national schedule.
by NYCskibum on Jun 26, 2009 11:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I would rather us play
San Diego State, TCU, Houston, NM, UCLA, Utah, etc. before CSU
by coffmonster on Jun 26, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw come on
CSU is a fun game and a great rivalry.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 26, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
CSU does nothing for CU. Its more or less a lose/lose for CU. If they win its because they are suppose to and if they lose it hurts nationaly, losing to a non-BCS school that hasnt been good in over a decade. I could care less if CU plays either AFA or CSU. I would rather see them play Pac-10/SEC teams and get more exposure
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 27, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's a flaw in your logic
Specifically, it’s assuming that by playing a team from the SEC or PAC 10, we would receive more “exposure.” I’m not sure how you measure exposure, but the CSU game every year is on national TV. Georgia was a regional ESPN game and Arizona State was a regional FSN broadcast. The Toledo game this year will also be an ESPN national broadcast. to me, more broadcasting coverage = more exposure. And like I said below, even if CSU get back to where they were at the hight of the Lubick/ BVP era, we still should beat them 75% of the time, if our team is at the level at which we want them to be. If I recall correctly, even with CSU at their best, the Rams only won when we were playing our first game and they were playing their second.It’s a different story when we’ve been bad, but then it doesn’t really matter who we play at that point.
Also, I don’t think you give the national media enough credit. I’ve often seen the CU/ CSU game listed as an underrated rivalry nationally. I think most college football writers recognize that CU/ CSU is a much different atmosphere than Generic BCS Team vs. Generic Non BCS Team. People know that it is a true rivalry game, and understand how much CSU players want to beat the team that didn’t recruit them.
by Hallux Valgus on Jun 28, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree on this one
I have always enjoyed the CSU game and the rivalry. I think we have to be careful not to be jerks like the NU fans are with us: “You’re not our rival! You’re not good enough to be our rival!” That pisses me off when I hear it from them and I’m sure it pisses off the CSU fans when they hear it from us. AFA is different, they’ve been avoiding us (in all sports) for 40+ years and I don’t care at this point if we ever play them again.
I agree with Hallux down below, it’s a game that we SHOULD win most of the time and we’ll get a full stadium and TV exposure. You can’t say that about any other non-conference games.
by nebraskasux on Jun 27, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
another topic that just won't die
My opinion is this:
if our program is where we want it to be, we beat CSU/AFA probably 75% of the time, and we sell out the game. There are no other possible teams that we could play with those same sort of odds where we sell out the game and get on TV. None. CU fans don’t go to crappy games. That’s why SEC teams or Texas or whoever can schedule ITT Tech and Kansas Deaf and Blind Academy- because they’re going to sell tickets regardless and make money. We can’t do that. It’s one of the major reasons that we schedule those tough OOC games. WE HAVE TO DO SO ECONOMICALLY.
And that’s why the CSU game makes sense.
by Hallux Valgus on Jun 26, 2009 2:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more.
Saddly, our fan base is appathetic. It’s something that’s changing, but historically we’ve had VERY fair weather fans… including the student population, which is a travesty.
by Buff-in-IL on Jun 26, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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