WR Josh Smith and TE Ryan Wallance Leaving Colorado
All I can really say is "wow." I am in disbelief. Thanks to our loyal reader mam2jd, most of you have read about the decision of WR Josh Smith and TE Ryan Wallace to leave the football program. Wallace, the 6'5" 235 pound redshirt freshman, decided to go his separate way because he was homesick and wanted to be closer to his family in Kentucky. Wallace was currently fifth on the depth chart but three seniors were in front of him so he was in line to have a good chance at seeing time in two years as a sophomore. He never played a down for the Buffs so it is hard to judge the impact he would have had. It's definitely a loss of a player with great size but we never learned what we had on the field.
As for Josh Smith, the junior all purpose player, we saw glimpses and imagined greatness. That ability to achieve new heights on the offensive side of the ball will not be realized with the Buffs. His own self comparisons to former Missouri WR Jeremy Maclin will be left incomplete. Smith has decided to leave Boulder and pursue a music degree in California or Arizona that the University of Colorado does not offer. He was honorable mention All Big 12 last year for his special teams work, something that was indeed special. No matter what you thought of Smith here are the facts: last year he was 9th in the nation in all purpose yards with 1,987. Yes, the 2008 sophomore fumbled, he dropped a few touchdowns, was injured and made some poor judgment plays but losing a guy who contributed 165 yards a game is never a good thing. Couple that with now only two scholarship receivers on the roster in Scotty McKnight and Markques Simas, the situation is now bordering ridiculous. I hope Terdema Ussery and Jarrod Darden, both true freshman who might be at prom or graduating from high school right now, are ready to play.
Smith was most definitely a polarizing figure for the Buffs. I am not going to lie, I loved watching Smith play and figured he might be the type that had a revelation one day & became a complete player. There will always be that question whether Smith really wanted or had the desire to become that complete player. Either way, he won't be competing on Folsom Field. I am shocked. Flat out, he was a playmaker, you can't deny that and the Buffs haven't shown they have a lot of those. He was not a great wide receiver yet but he had the potential to be. If the Buffs had four or five receivers above Smith on the depth chart, this may not be as big of a deal as most are making it but because of the current depth at wideout, it is.
Moving on now and assessing the situation objectively, a few things come to mind right away:
1) I find it hard to believe that pursuing a music career is the only reason for a transfer of this magnitude. If your an outsider looking in at the Colorado Buffaloes, you once again start to wonder what is considered the "normal attrition" that goes on within a program or if their is a deeper issue? Perception effects recruiting, donor gifts, season ticket buyers, etc.
2) This was my first thought when I heard of the news and what guys like Tim Griffin of ESPN will ponder is in regards to the future of RB Darrell Scott and even if he does stay at Colorado, how will this impact his football career at Colorado? A big reason Scott came to Colorado was his uncle Josh Smith and although Kyle Ringo said in his column that this shouldn't have an impact on Scott's status, he is a 19 year old young man who lost his best friend/family member in school. It might not be a big deal now but what about when school starts? Either way, this isn't good for what needs to be our best player in '09. I wouldn't worry about this one too much yet as it might be the first overreaction on this story but a year from now, what if the Buffs don't turn it around to a satisfactory level? What will be the first question most will ask?
You just have to hope their isn't more to the story on this one.
3) Special teams, obviously, takes an immediate hit. Smith had 1,276 yards on kick returns, second in the nation last season. The Buffs already have major questions in every other facet of special teams play, something that probably cost them or severely impacted the results of a game or two last year. The Buffs won't get to 10, 9, 8 or even 7 wins if this part of team doesn't improve.
4) What do the Buffs do now about wide receiver? Probably nothing can be done this summer from an outside perspective. Smith was a starting receiver on the most current depth chart. Kendrick Celestine is supposedly ineligible from his return to the program so he looks to be out of the question. Right now, the Buffs have one receiver who has ever caught a pass in a division one football game. ONE. I don't think bringing in another player right now is going to do anything other than add depth with an athlete that might not be "scholarship worthy." There is pretty much nothing that the staff can do other than hope JUCO transfer Andre Simmons (still not completely qualified for admission), Darden, Ussery, Simas, Jason Espinoza and even Ryan Maxwell are ready to be superior receivers. It was something Colorado was going to have to deal with anyway but this news magnifies it. Can anything else possibly happen to the receiver position?
5) How does all of this effect the team? This was supposed to be the no excuses campaign. The way the players and coaches were talking, this was the "all or nothing" year. The year the turn around takes place. Gone is LB Lynn Katoa, WR Chance Blackmon, Wallace and Smith. Players like S Ray Polk, LB Jon Major, QB Tyler Hansen, DL Curtis Cunningham, OL Blake Behrens, OG Max Tuioti-Mariner are a few who were out or injured this spring. You have two coaches leave the program in Jeff Grimes and Mark Helfrich. Most are happy with the replacements but still, its a change, its a rocking of the boat, something we keep seeing with this program. Last year it was all about injuries and off-the-field issues. I wonder what the moral will be like in the fall time?
I find myself asking what's next? I didn't see this one coming. I wish Josh Smith and Ryan Wallace the best of luck in their future endeavors, wherever they may be. I enjoyed watching Smith with the football in his hands.
Just shocked...I guess I shouldn't be anymore especially with this hidden statement in Ringo's column:
The athletic department has planned several announcements concerning the football program for Monday. The updates will include the status of Hawkins' efforts to fill his coaching staff in the wake of Mark Helfrich's departure to Oregon and player personnel changes, including Smith and Wallace.
That including word might not mean this is over...stay tuned.
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well, you pretty much said it all there
but the whole “reason” for the transfer still bugs me. He knew what he was getting into here, CU has a big music school, and it’s not like USC or ASU let you major in “Rap” or something. There has to be something else going on that caused this and the high attrition rate at CU (certainly in football and basketball) is really frustrating.
I don’t want this to sound like sour grapes because even though I kind of had a love/hate relationship with Josh I had huge hopes for him this year and I’m sad he’s leaving. However, I really believe that his college football career is now over. Not because he doesn’t have the talent to play elsewhere, but because he doesn’t have the passion or desire.
Anyway, I wish him the best, I always got a kick out of his interviews because he was funny and seemed like a free-spirited guy. Just don’t take Scott with you, OK Josh? Cause then you would definitely be off my “wish him the best” list.
by nebraskasux on May 30, 2009 11:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said. Now to the elephant in the room
When you encounter a situation that can’t be ignored (the elephant in the room) you don’t dance around it and hope it goes away. You introduce yourself to the elephant and make him your friend. The elephant here is D.Scott and his status at CU. Hopefully, Monday’s announcement includes an interview/statement from D.Scott himself, to put to bed (for now at least) the speculation that he’ll be following J-Fly out the door.
Again, you have to wonder about the timing of these decisions and, to some degree the “rest of the story.” Are there more guys taking a pass on Hawk Love? When Kai Maiava left, the party line was he wanted/needed to be closer to family. Then the kid was quoted in the papers back home complaining that he never liked the position switch to FB, wasn’t on board with it and that it was as much a cause for his departure as anything else. Now he’s the 312 lb starting center for Ucla. It’s kinda weird that, after two full years here, Josh is just now realizing he can’t meet his educational goals at CU. And what of Wallace, Blackmon and Celestine (at the time he left)? These were all young guys on the verge of establishing themselves with the program and stepping into some serious PT only to abruptly announce “no mas” and hit the road. How come?
Any chance we can get an exit interview with Josh and Ryan ala Toney Clemons excellent sit-down with the Michigan cats? Inquiring minds want to know.
Hey, I like Hawkins and appreciate what he’s done for CU on/off the field, but entering his 4th season he can’t be having arguably his most explosive playmaker jumping ship. Can’t be good for morale, let alone team goals. Anyone remember 10 wins, no excuses? If Clemons and Simmons and Simas turn out to be as good as advertised, maybe we won’t miss J-Fly long term. But in the short run, his productivity and playmaking, especially in the return game will be tough to replace.
Just sayin’
Hopefully we aren’t witnessing a trend of departures
by mam2jd on May 31, 2009 12:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This cannot keep happening.
Wow. J-Fly now gone. It seems we get a new transfer every single week. J-fly’s excuse seems weak too. You can’t help but wonder what is going on behind the scenes right now. This hurts immensely. We absolutely have to have Simmons enroll now or we will have virtually no passing game whatsoever.
I am a student and even though I have been a Buff fan all my life and my family has had season tickets since I was 13 renewing them right now seems like a tall order. Where is the optimism at this point? We run off players like it’s our duty. I wake up every day expecting another transfer, which is sad. This has got to stop.
We absolutely have to have one of our recruit WR’s step up or we will be in deep trouble which is a bad sign. I was pessimistic about the season before losing J-fly, now, I am downright depressed. This sucks. What the hell is going on in Boulder right now? Stop transferring!!! Honor your commitment, please.
by Business Socks on May 31, 2009 1:22 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
After a head coaching change I would expect this but not now
Hawk either needs to look at himself a bit or take a better look at the players he is recruiting. This kind of thing is really unacceptable and ultimately falls on his shoulders. I understand these are “kids” but this sort of thing does not happen at a program where players feel the best days/seasons are in front of them. If we don’t dramatically improve on the field this season it will no doubt be Hawkins last in Boulder. The combination on the field and off the field issues 6-6 isn’t going to get it done this year.
by NYCskibum on May 31, 2009 9:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
USC?
I hope Josh Smith really likes music if he transfers there because the closest he will get to the field is if he becomes a member of the band.
This becomes a bad loss if Simmons doesn’t qualify. Darrell Scott is not going to transfer because of this. I wish Smith the best of luck with his music and we have got so much talent at TE that losing Wallace isn’t anything to worry about.
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by Zach B on May 31, 2009 9:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
we have talent at TE this year but when four seniors graduate this year
the Buffs will have two tight ends, Ryan Deehan and a project in true freshman DaVaughn Thornton.
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by irish1611 on May 31, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt this will leave a hole on the roster at TE
which was my point. Wallace “appeared” to have a nice skill set but we’ll never know if he would’ve been a contributor. Odds were Hawk would’ve worked him in situationally this year to get him some game experience with an eye to next year. Going forward, his absence leaves a vacant roster spot that will likely be filled by a less experienced player. Any info on Thornton? Can he come in and make a contribution early? I figured him for a red-shirt this year.
by mam2jd on May 31, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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you can only take so many body blows until your foundation is weakened.
by BroncoBuff on May 31, 2009 9:48 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It started
with the Kai Mivia transfer, things kinda smelled with that deal. By the way, he is at the top of the deepth chart at center at UCLA, no surprise. Something appears to be going sour with Hawk love in Boulder. It would be easy to understand if these were Barnett’s recruits, but they are not. There are always young men who go to one school and for some reason or another, leave, but it’s like gate to the pasture is open and one leaves and they are all slowly starting to head out.
The only thing I can say is I wish these young men who are leaving all the best in the future. There are far more important things in life than a football game but, damn it kinda sucks to have one of if not your top player quit. Let’s face it, Josh Snith was our best threat to take all the way, on any given play. I have a weird feeling he will be playing for slick Rick.
It’s scary to read the sports page each morning, I’ll keep wondering who will be next?
Go Buffs
by CrazyBuff on May 31, 2009 10:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree with this:
The only thing I can say is I wish these young men who are leaving all the best in the future. There are far more important things in life than a football game but, damn it kinda sucks to have one of if not your top player quit. Let’s face it, Josh Snith was our best threat to take all the way, on any given play.
Let’s just hope this is the last of the defects as the Buffs are currently 11 scholarship players short of the 85 total allowed
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by irish1611 on May 31, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is just baffling
I was extremely skeptical of the Kai Maiava move and subsequent transfer.(also, him being #1 on the Ucla depth chart isn’t saying much. Everyone I talk to has been extremely disappointed by him thus far, and from what I understand, this is #1 by default. I frankly haven’t heard many good things about him at all) But I just don’t get the Josh Smith thing. The “murky music degree” reason is complete BS, and he was in position to be our #1 playmaker. Frankly, he was our #1 playmaker last year.
Right now, we’re left with SCOTTY FREAKIN MCKNIGHT as our entire known WR corps. Just let that sink in. That’s just baffling for a BCS level school. I’m as big a Hawk supporter as exists without the last name Hawkins, but something just isn’t right. And, given that it’s happening across the athletic department, I’m very skeptical about the direction in which we’re headed.
by Hallux Valgus on May 31, 2009 12:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
and frankly, I don't buy that Josh Smith was a polarizing figure
compare him to Patrick Williams. To me, HE was a polarizing figure. He had an NFL body, NFL measurables, and a junior high head. He simply couldn’t catch the ball. He is the single biggest reason we lost the ASU game in the desert- he couldn’t catch the ball. That’s polarizing. This tantalizing blend of size and speed who can’t create separation, hears footsteps louder than his own breathing, and could catch maybe 5 out of ten if you hit him in the hands playing catch. But he just LOOKED like a football player.
Josh Smith might not have been what we thought he could have developed into, but he was plenty dynamic as he was. We just didn’t have any other playmakers to scrutinize. Frankly, he reminds me of Phil Savoy, who left me salivating as a freshman, but then just never got any better. Was Josh Smith that? Maybe, maybe not. But that’s still worthy of a very prominent part of the offense- warts and all.
by Hallux Valgus on May 31, 2009 12:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I am totally agreement that JFly was a playmaker
I have been singing that tune when things were good and bad for him all last year. He was a difference maker on a team without many at all. Patrick Williams never made a play so he never had any +’s on the radar, only negatives. Josh could go from doing one great thing and two things that had you scratching your head but like you said, he did make plays. That is where I got the polarizing figure from.
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by irish1611 on May 31, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frustrating
I agree this sounds like a strange reason to “transfer” and I am as disappointed as every buff fan because Josh was certainly a dynamic threat and was a key to our offense this coming year, BUT- I wish him luck in whatever he chooses is best for his future.
I do know that the Colorado Buffaloes are bigger than one player however, and we have some amazing talent to look forward to this year and even more so next year.
Wow it does seem though that the injury bug of last year is being replaced by the attrition bug this year. I understand CU is tough academically and that everybody wants playing time, but it seems we are being hit more than most programs for some reason. Hawk-Anything we should know about?
I will say that I’d prefer this to the attrition due to problems with the law that has hit us in the past and still hits a lot of other programs.
by BuffnBigD on May 31, 2009 1:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Important info from Tim Griffin on ESPN.com that gives some insight
“Smith’s departure comes after he dropped in the team’s depth chart over the spring. The Buffaloes aren’t exactly loaded at the position and Smith was expected to challenge for a starting job this spring.
But he struggled at times as Markques Simas and Dustin Ebner zoomed past him at his “X” wide receiver position and Scotty McKnight and walk-on Jason Espinoza are fixtures on the other side."
by MDBuff on May 31, 2009 2:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to question Griffin's "insight"
but is that really accurate? Smith was at the top of the last depth chart released (which was when, the day of the spring game?)
Regardless, this is just another reason to transfer that makes NO sense at all. At the very minimum Josh would of been #1 PR/KR and one of our top 5 WRs. I think that is a little better than walk-on water boy at USC or ASU, right? (he’s the one who name-dropped those two schools apparently so he’s open to criticism there)
Someone either gave him some of the worst advice in history or he has some other major reason for leaving, because “his music” or “playing time” are both ridiculous.
by nebraskasux on May 31, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I commented in his blog comments with a link of the spring depth
chart after the spring game and Josh Smith is #1. You can’t drop three spots if you haven’t done anything on the field. I dont get that comment by Griffin:
http://www.cubuffs.com/pdf4/400787.pdf?SPSID=3843&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600
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by irish1611 on May 31, 2009 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask yourself this....
I saw this news today and like the most of Buff nation got the lump in my throat not because J-Fly’s leaving but because of the thought of DScott following him. Smith has two memorable highlights in my mind – the return against CSU, and a 40+ yard grab on the second series against the Huskers in Lincoln. That’s it. Period. The rest of the time, I remember cursing him for running out of bounds like some pretty boy track star and never having the killer instinct that makes a NFL wideout and NFL wideout. Not to mention the fct he ran EVERYTHING out of the endzone, regardless of the coverage. Tell me you didn’t cuss him when he pulled that crap in the endzone against the Horns last year that almost cost us a safety. Good luck Josh.
by Eforceone on May 31, 2009 7:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
True, if Scott left the team we'd officially be in a tailspin...
…but I don’t think there’s any reason to assume he’d automatically follow JFly. Scott surely has other reasons to stay, like relationships with coaches (which I assume are positive), desire to come out and have a successful year in 2009, not wanting to sit out a year, etc. Plus, if I was Scott I’d be at least a little upset that J-Fly is reneging on his commitment to the team and potentially hurting the running game. With JFly departing from an already-thin receiving corps, teams are going to be even more likely to stack the box, which is going to make it that much harder for the O-line, Scott, and the other backs to establish the run.
Seems like a selfish move to me, but regardless I wish JFly well and hope he succeeds at whatever he chooses to do next. I’m still looking forward to seeing Scott in black and gold next year.
by highlandsbuff on May 31, 2009 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about 6 wins and no excuses??
this is going to be a long season if we don’t have a WR that can catch the ball from miniHawk.
If Scott transfers, oh god, lets just find a new program and start over man, talk about killing the fan base.
by roxbombers on May 31, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
6 wins if we lose Josh?
It stings and he would have definitely contributed at WR this year, but Josh probably wasn’t going to be among our top 3 receivers (Simas, McKnight, Simmons). Then we’ve got Espy and Maxwell (3* out of high school, same as Josh) who have shined even though they are undersized walk ons. Finally, we’ve got Ussery and Darden coming in this summer and both are much more polished than Josh was when Josh arrived as a freshman and got playing time at WR. This is far from the end of the world. Probably hurts our return game, but is anyone really that worried about returns if Speedy (or B-Lock or Polk or Espy) is back there fielding punts and kickoffs? I hate to lose him, but it’s not dampening my optimism for this season.
by buffnik on May 31, 2009 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shocked like everyone else, but I think J. Smith’s departure is more a comment of Josh Smith than the program. Josh has always been a very flighty guy – didn’t he have a clothing line or something a year ago? Now it’s a rapping career. I never got the impression that football was his primary passion or focus. Yes he’s very fast and made some great plays, but he also stopped my heart on several more. He dropped a huge pass in the A & M game; he had a poor return against FSU that turned into a safety (and almost did the same vs. Texas); I could go on, but, other than the speed he brought and the position he plays, one could view this as addition by subtraction.
Another important note – I agree with Tim Griffin’s analysis of the depth chart. Smith was not going to make it on the field next season ahead of Simas or McKnight. I think we’ll be OK as long as Simmons qualifies and we get freshman contribution.
Let’s sign that Jean-Baptiste guy pronto, though. Go Buffs
by BuffsFan99 on Jun 1, 2009 8:31 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
note to the athletic department
Today might not have been the best day to be sending me a fundraising request.
Just sayin…
by Hallux Valgus on Jun 1, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I got that too
Nice touch.
by highlandsbuff on Jun 1, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
J Fly
I saw this on another posting and I have to agree. While J-Fly was a very exciting and raw talent, it may just be that he didn’t really love football. These guys are running, lifting, going to class, studying the playbook, etc… It’s a full time job. If you don’t love the game, it could really become monotonous.
That being said, it immediately hurts our special teams. But, it does create an opening for someone to step up. Speedy Stewart needs to take 3 or 4 to the house this year. Also, give Lockridge a try back there.
As far as D. Scott goes, I really don’t think that this will affect his status. I would love to get a quote from him confirming it though. For, JFly, Football may not have been a career, but Scott has the ability to have a long career in the NFL.
by DABUFFS50 on Jun 1, 2009 9:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This does smell fishy to me
I am wondering if Erickson or Carrol are trying to get him on board so he can snag Scott from the program. If he is really serious about music, why not UC Berkley, best music program on the west coast, or is ASU going to have a major in rap.
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by Broncoman on Jun 1, 2009 11:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
probably not smart enough for UC
Also, I would imagine those guys would be focused on bringing in their own talent through recruiting then dealing with the hassle associated with a transfer. Besides USC should have any problem pulling in 5 star talent at RB
by NYCskibum on Jun 1, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-Fly Transfer & D.Scott Ramifications
I think D.Scott knows he has much more of a potential career in the NFL and is more invested in the sport overall. Last year was a bit of a waste with his injuries and showing up out of shape. I think he’s focused, wants to prove something and does not want to sit out a transfer year before he gets back on the field. I think he stays unless the J-Fly transfer situation gets ugly or something.
On that note, I am concerned Bohn & Co. are picking J-Fly to set a (correct) precedent on transfers. CU has invested tens of thousands in him and spent time trying to come up with creative ways to help him pursue his interest in music (CU-Denver option). You can’t just let people bail on that investment. But, I wish they’d set that policy with a player whose nephew doesn’t happen to be a 5-star stud RB and future Heisman winner. I hope they don’t let this get ugly and jade D.Scott and J-Fly and their families over the handling of this! Michigan let Clemons come to CU. Notre Dame let Brandon Nicholas come to Boulder. Set a precedent, Bohn, but not with J-Fly!
by Saheeb on Jun 3, 2009 10:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Longhorns get last laugh???
Well folks, it really makes a Longhorn like myself wonder what really has him mad at Hawkins, especially after getting his nephew to commit and all. Geez…you think maybe Mr. Green ($$) didn’t show to the party as promised???? Can’t believe that voice on Josh Smith, sounds just like a canary. And now Hawkins is going to be the receivers coach? Guess he really wants to keep a close eye on those Receivers, especially if anybody starts to asking those pesty questions.
A RESTRICTED TRANSFER…..Wow, complete lack of class. I don’t care what you say but Coach Mack Brown at Texas tells all recruits/players that if it doesn’t work out at Texas he will sign your release and wish you the best of luck ANYWHERE….hell, even OU….No hard feelings. He is a man of his word, and no recruit/player has ever had a problem with him. I find it telling that Hawkins would play this game with Smith. Obviously there is a lot more to this story, and it can’t be good for anyone.
D. Scott must really be regretting his decision…..guess the restriction is a warning to D. Scott that he is STUCK at CU. Dude, what could have been at Texas??
by jkovach on Jun 8, 2009 8:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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