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Colorado_mediumOnly one more week of Buffs basketball and then we can put this season away. It would be hard for me to believe that Colorado will get another win this season as Kansas State and Texas A&M will both be fighting for an NCAA tournament bid. Tough thing for the Wildcats and Aggies is a win against the Buffs still kills their RPI and strength of schedule. I am not going to spend a lot of time on yesterday's game at Baylor but, once again, the Buffs find a way to be competitive and then the youth, lack of talent, turnovers, poor rebounding, etc. kicks in. This is all you really need to know about the game:

After trailing 26-24 at halftime, the Buffs took their largest lead of the game at 42-38 when Thorne hit a three-pointer with 11:20 remaining. With 8:50 to play, Casey Crawford hit a trey to give the Buffs a 50-48 lead. Curtis Jerrells answered with another three-pointer at 8:14 to ignite a 17-0 run for the Bears (17-11, 5-9).

If you want to submit yourself to more CU basketball heartache, here are some other links:
The Denver Post - Another Unbearable Defeat For Colorado
The BDC - Bzdelik's Buffs Collapse in Second Half

On to other things:

Colorado_mediumTBO.com, affiliated with the South Florida Bulls, says that Buffs secondary coach Greg Brown has interviewed for the defensive coordinator position but is still undecided. Like I said yesterday, the writer makes the big point that Brown will likely get an $80K raise but another point is that he will probably get job security as well, something that CU cannot match either. I would be shocked if Brown doesn't jump at this. South Florida has some talent, has been a decent team over the past couple of years and you can never underestimate the power of money, even if Brown has strong Colorado ties. Neil Woelk of the BDC hopes those ties keeps Brown here.

Colorado_mediumThis story has been floating around for a while now (and Nebraskasux beat me to it on the fanpost, today) but according to Kyle Ringo at the BDC, Miami (OH), a 2009 opponent of Colorado, is trying to get the Buffs off their schedule to play a game against Kentucky at Paul Brown Stadium. The game vs Kentucky would probably result in a bigger payday for Miami than playing Colorado. The problem right now for the Red Hawks, who have a very hard out of conference schedule, is finding a viable replacement within the MAC that would appease ESPN. Colorado wants this game on ESPN. If Miami can't find a suitable replacement, they will owe CU $750,000, something in this economic time period that is hardly affordable. According to Ringo, the MAC maybe reworking a ton of schedules within the conference to free up a "higher echelon" team like Toledo or Bowling Green. Right now, Akron is the only MAC school that has a free date but that doesn't seem to be a viable option for television. Personally, I would love to get the $750,000 but who knows if the athletic department would get all that, you never know with the Colorado administration. I would also like to not have to play a FCS school so I am hoping that worse case scenario the Buffs are playing another MAC team or another FBS school. It would be great if this ends up being a home game for obvious financial reasons and a competitive advantage. I don't know enough about this situation but that should be a demand of Bohn if Miami is trying to get out of this game. Let's not go to Toledo!

I would love to know the terms and conditions of the deal. For example, can the Buffs hold Miami (OH) to the game and make them play us? Does Colorado have to approve the opponent and the location of the game now (from Ringo's article it sounds like the Buffs do have some say, especially to make it appealing for television)? Can CU just demand the $750,000 and find a new team themselves (easier said than done)? It is obvious Miami is changing the game for financial reasons, the Buffs should be able to act in the same way unless all the power lies with Miami since the contract was a home and home.

Other replacement teams that have been thrown out there are Ole Miss, Rutgers and Louisville.

Colorado_mediumI have to give a shout out to one of the best athletes to ever come through Colorado in track star Jenny Barringer. A 2008 Olympic qualifier, Barringer, competing at Indoor Track and Field Championships Saturday, added another record to her esteemed collegiate career:

            Barringer won the mile in a time of 4 minutes, 25.91 seconds, which is the fastest recorded in the world this indoor season. The previous best time was run by Lindsey Gallo (Team USA) at 4:27.90 on Feb. 7.

            The time was a collegiate record, as well as a Big 12 Conference, Gilliam Track & Field Stadium and CU record. The former collegiate best mark was 4:28.31, run by Vicki Huber (Villanova) on Feb. 5, 1988. Sara Vaughn had previously held the CU record at 4:40.02, which she set almost a year ago.

            "This is a new level and I have definitely taken a huge step," Barringer said. "To think that I can step out onto a track and run 4:25 with little help is still coming to me."

This is also extremely impressive:

       Barringer has only run in three races this season and all three times have been CU records. (She is the current CU record holder in the mile, 3k and 5k as well as the 3,000-meter steeplechase outdoors.) Two of those races, the 5k and mile, have resulted in collegiate records.

 

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Would love to get this game off our schedule

Anyone know which BCS teams have open dates that weekend if we can’t get a MAC team scheduled

by NYCskibum on Mar 1, 2009 9:29 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Louisville, Ole Miss and Rutgers are the ones of the top of my head

that I have heard the most about

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by irish1611 on Mar 1, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

of course I haven't read the contract we have with Miami OH

but I don’t think we can demand the 750k and then find someone on our own. there must be something in the contract about if they find another comparable MAC team to take their place and ESPN still televises it then they are fulfilling their part of the deal. I also don’t think the MAC would send one of their teams to Boulder. We still “owe” them a road game and as long as they can get an ESPN broadcast I think we would have to do it. I bet we’ll end up playing one of the aforementioned MAC teams on the road (which in my opinion would still be better than playing another 1-AA team at home).

by nebraskasux on Mar 1, 2009 12:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

that doesn't make much sense for anyone

Neither Miami nor Kentucky have particularly rabid traveling fan bases, and something tells me that Cleveland isn’t exactly a draw on its own (unless there are 50,000 Kentucky fans just itching to visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame). I’d be amazed if they sold out that stadium. So all you’re really doing is pissing off Miami season ticket holders who actually got a decent OOC opponent to come to town.

And it really does benefit us to travel to Ohio, considering that we’re trying to make recruiting inroads there. Kentucky doesn’t have much in the way of prep talent, the best thing about Mississippi is their JC program, and precious few of them would even qualify, and New Jersey only has about three good high school programs, and those get strip mined by Rutgers, Penn State, and Boston College.

by Hallux Valgus on Mar 1, 2009 12:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

agree with you on the Kentucky game

The first reason that Miami was trying to get out of this game was the fact that they have a pretty tough OOC schedule:

September 5 – at Northwestern
September 12 – COLORADO
September 26 – at Boise State
October 3 – CINCINNATI

but now they add an SEC team? Of course they might make more money because there stadium only holds 24,000 compared to 65K at Paul Brown. Oxford is 50 minutes away from Paul Brown and Kentucky is 1 hour 20 minutes away so they might get a pretty good amount but I can’t see Kentucky fans getting all amped up to play Miami (OH).

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by irish1611 on Mar 1, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think that the location and the pay are the big reasons for the change. It would be interesting to see if the UK fans show up for this game. There are a lot of UK fans in that area so maybe they will. it sucks that it puts us in a bad position. Maybe we can talk one of the three teams mentioned into a series.

by Bigbuff44 on Mar 1, 2009 4:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI Paul Brown Stadium is Cincy not Cleveland

I don’t think its hard to believe that they would get a decent Kentucky following at the game if they do this.

by NYCskibum on Mar 1, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that makes a lot more sense

I just assumed that Paul BROWN was in Cleveland. Thanks, NYC.

To Irish’s point- I’m not sure that the venue is the end all/ be all. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s the opposite. I’m guessing that their deal is a lot like when CU plays at Invesco. It’ll be a 50/50 seating deal, and they won’t get money from parking or concessions. Folsom seats more than Miami, but Invesco seats more than Paul Brown. And we make more money on games at Folsom than we do at Invesco. I know that a lot of CU fans lament having to go to Denver for the CSU game- I can only imagine what Miami fans would think of traveling the same distance to a pro stadium, for their best home opponent in years.

by Hallux Valgus on Mar 1, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miami's stadium only seats 24k

So If Miami vs Kentucky can get 60-70k into Paul Brown then they should come out way ahead no?

by NYCskibum on Mar 1, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

assuming far more Kentucky fans of course

and just colege football fans in the Cincinnati area

by NYCskibum on Mar 1, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

not necessarily

They won’t get the same revenue cut that they would from their home stadium. See above. There’s a reason that pro stadiums want extra events- they can negotiate advantageous rental deals. Generally, the owner of the stadium will negotiate a set price, and require a sell out. Each school will get 50% of the seats and if they can’t sell them, they have to buy them back out of their guarantee. They won’t make money from concessions or parking. And concessions are a major part of venue revenue.

Like I mentioned above. CU makes more money on a Folsom game than they do on an Invesco game, despite the difference in seating capacity, because they own the stadium, and all of the revenue goes to them. Invesco benefits from selling parking, concessions, and sponsorship. Just think about it as bypassing the middle man. The pro stadium is the middle man. For them to agree to a deal, they have to make money.

And I still don’t think that a Miami/ UK game can sell out a pro stadium.

by Hallux Valgus on Mar 1, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point about the recruiting benefits of playing in Ohio

I hadn’t thought about it from that angle. That may be the only benefit of playing in Oxford, assuming the game still happens.

by highlandsbuff on Mar 1, 2009 4:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Recruiting

There is some talent to get in Kentucky. If you want to recruit KY the place to go is Louisville. Some of the best high school football teams are there: Male, Trinity, Ballard, and St. Xavier. Plus, it’s not far from Lexington, St. Louis, Cincinnati and Indianapolis. We wouldn’t lose out by playing them. It would definitely get some TV time. Plus, I would still get to go to the game….LOL!!

by Bigbuff44 on Mar 1, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad move

I live in Cleveland, so I’m obviously biased, but I was really looking forward to this game. This game not only offers a big boost to recruiting in the midwest for the BUFFS but it also give alums who live in this part of the country a better chance to see them play. I used to live in Chicago and there are a lot of CU grads in that city who would make the trip to Oxford, OH.

by CleBUFFS on Mar 2, 2009 9:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I feel you...

I had a few friends out there that would have loved to go to this game. Hopefully for you, Toledo, Bowling Green and Akron are still close enough to go to. I think Toledo and Bowling Green are two hours away and Akron no more than an hour

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by irish1611 on Mar 2, 2009 9:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ole Miss??

An Ole Miss/ Buff matchup this week would be awesome if they can’t make the Miami game work. A relationship builder with the SEC. A Potential top 25 team. The best tailgate party in the south, bar none, in the Grove, and attractive enough potentially to be picked up on ESPN for a early Saturday, or even Thursday night gig. Where do we sign up?

by Eforceone on Mar 2, 2009 1:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

even rumor about moving it to

the new Dallas stadium. I would put it at a 5% chance of happening with 94% of it going to be another MAC program and a 1% chance we are at Folsom playing a FCS school

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by irish1611 on Mar 2, 2009 3:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I’d be very interested in heading to the Grove, but I have almost zero intererst in visiting some corporate money pit in Dallas to throw more money at Jerry Jones.

by Hallux Valgus on Mar 2, 2009 5:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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