Kansas Pays Mangino $3 Million in Settlement, Gives Turner Gill Huge Pay Raise
by irish1611 on Dec 17, 2009 9:07 AM MST
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In a ho-hum sort of move, the University of Kansas has given Mark Mangino a settlement of $3.0 million after his resignation due to the controversy stemming from his treatment of players. Mangino had four years remaning on his contract at $2.3 million a year or $9.2 million total.
The $3.0 million is about the number Colorado would have needed to pay Dan Hawkins to make a change in leadership. Luckily for Kansas, they didn't need to pay the $9.2 million that would have been due to Mangino if he needed to be bought out. The same doesn't go for the Buffs as Mike Bohn gave Dan Hawkins an extension after five games in 2008, extending Dan Hawkins' term from the end of 2010 to January 2013. That extension instantly increased Dan Hawkins total buyout from around $1.1 million if they wanted to buyout his originial contract at the end of 2010 to around $3.0 million.
Further, Dan Hawkins makes about $1.0 million a year as the head coach of Colorado. Mark Mangino made $2.3 million a year. Turner Gill, a somewhat "hot topic" coach even more so last year, received a contract worth $10.0 million over 5 years, good for $2.0 million a year. Turner Gill made $265,000 last year at Buffalo, not a bad day for Gill who promises that this job is not a stepping stone to the next one.
Just last year, Kansas gave basketball coach Bill Self a 10 year, $30 million contract after winning the national championship. Jeff Bzdelik, the CU basketball coach, makes $750,000.
Therefore, the Kansas head coaches in their two major sports make $5 million a year plus a $3 million settlement charge to Mangino. The Colorado coaches make roughly $1.75 million a year. Still on the Colorado books is Gary Barnett's buyout from 2005:
The athletic department remains in deeply in debt with the majority of an $8 million loan from the campus and the CU system in 2006 still to be paid off. Part of that debt was caused by the last coaching change when Bohn fired Gary Barnett at the end of the 2005 season and hired Hawkins.
It helps to have a top tier basketball program, it helps to have a well run athletic department and it helps to be able to pay your coaches 2.8 times more than another Big 12 team.
I have been as outspoken as anyone about Dan Hawkins' performance and I struggle how his performance warrants a fifth year but if we are going to pay the next football coach $1.0 million in salary with the limitation of assistant coaches only receiving one year contracts, this cycle of underperformance will continue. Do I think their are coaches out there who can make $1.0 million a year at Colorado that can get the Buffs to 6 - 6 or 7 - 5 and to a bowl game? Absolutely, it's not like we are recruiting to horrible college town, their are plenty of advantages to going to school in Boulder. But the ceiling would probably 7 wins every year, not a bad deal compared to the last four seasons but let's be honest, their isn't a lot of excitement around programs with a ceiling at 7 wins a year.
Nothing new but the main question I think for Mike Bohn now is what are we doing to close the financial gap between programs like Kansas and Missouri in the North? Are we really that far away from Kansas in terms of finances? I know they are probably ahead of us due to their basketball program but 2.8 times?
It once again begs the question: How serious is the administration about it's athletic programs?
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Its a simple correlation
winning teams (basketball or football) attract large fan bases that spend money. Lots of fans with money equals large Athletic Program budgets to attract top coaches who produce winning teams and attract the best recruits. Circular in nature.
Losing teams are poorly supported by fans which leads to budget/funding problems (coaches, facilities, stupid Thursday/Sunday/Friday game scheduling…) which rusults more losses and “difficult” recruiting. Again, circular in nature.
Where does CU fall in this analysis? How do we break that cycle?
by BuffnBigD on Dec 17, 2009 10:10 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bohn has stated publicly what his goals for FB and MBB are. In a radio interview in Nov. on 1510am he said. FB should be able to battle it out sometimes for Big 12 North championship and MBB should get to be a top half of the Big 12 team. Pretty low expectations! I think that Bohn and Hawk have ridden the “we inherited a terrible program” pony so long that they believe it and have such minimal goals for themselves that it is self fulfilling. Buzz wants to be better than that but we’ll see if he doesn’t get sick of the lack of support from higher up on the food chain.
by oldtimebuff on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
This is an interesting topic for sure...
as this whole Manginogate saga went down the caliber of coach that Kansas was able to draw interest from was FAR superior to what they saw in 2001 when Mangino was hired. Some have been of the opinion that the winning seasons with Mangino encouraged this. I’d argue that support is the biggest factor hands down.
Lew Perkins has turned the ADept into a cash cow since he’s come to Kansas and more than doubled the annual revenue. There are facility upgrades at the football stadium ongoing, the basketball arena, practice facilities…they are even building a new soccer/olympic sports complex with speculation that the track will eventually be removed from the football stadium.
Lew has paid coaches probably more than their worth and finally put money behind the assistants. I can’t stress enough how much paying quality assistants is worth.
College sports is a business, it’s big business and you have to, have to, have to, spend money to make money. I’d agree that the Colorado Buffalo sports fan really has to question if the administration cares about athletics.
When Roy Williams was around, Kansas was content to have a bball program and that’s it. The Chancellor could have cared less what else happened and would not support any movement to improve other programs. Lew was able to convince him to do so and now we are where we are, but we have definitely been in the position where it was clear the admin had no interest in improving the athletic situation.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 17, 2009 10:40 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
it should be noted to
that the salary money comes from University of Kansas Athletics.inc and is not subject to the board of regents.
Me likey Skip Holtz
by labbadabba on Dec 17, 2009 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no but...
there is a substantial amount that the University administration can do to provide support to the AD and department
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 17, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone read kyle's blog?
kinda rehashes what was in the chat earlier this week but its interesting how bohn decided to cancel at the last minute for an interview from kyle. doesnt the ad/administration realize that silence is not making the issue of who decided to keep hawk go away? it almost seems like one of the higher ups told bohn not to talk to kyle at the last minute. fans are gettin even more pissed after all this because it feels like we have been deceived for the last year starting with 10 wins no excuses, to the media being blocked out and yelled at by hawk, told our o-line will be the best in the big12 to this no talking about why they decided to keep hawk. what happened to transparency that was promised to us in 2005?
http://buffzone.pmpblogs.com/2009/12/15/bohn-moving-beyond-hawkins-decision/
by hisnamewas on Dec 17, 2009 10:42 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile the alumni group has
CU “students” calling me nightly to get donations. Not a dime from me this year, but the sad thing is, is that I would have been good for a few hundred if Hawk was gone. It would have felt great to give some money to the school as we cleaned house in the football dept. If the teachers can block the buyout of a coach, I can withhold my money from going to the school until I see the change I like. That’s the irony… the money come flowing in for all depts when the football team is doing well. Look what Mack Brown has done at UT.
Circular in nature indeed.
by The Notorious R.O.B on Dec 17, 2009 11:21 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I actually
told the student caller that I would not donate any money to the university until Dan Hawkins was replaced and the calls have stopped coming… That was 2 months ago or so and not one call since.
by Buff-in-IL on Dec 17, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
clarification on contracts, its worse than you stated
irish:
assistant coaches have no employment contractsare and are ‘at-will’ employees, that is, they are day-to-day and can be terminated at any point . under TABOR and related statutes, an instutition like cu is permitted 6 long-term employment contracts of up to 5 years duration. at cu, that means benson, bohn, hawk, buz, mc-miller, and ? same applies to csu and other state schools. at other schools, assistants typically are on a rolling deal of at least one year where they would receive a year’s pay on termination. not the case at cu/csu. this in addition to poor pay in a high cost area.
cites: TABOR = Article X, Section 20 of Colo Constitution; statutes = 24-19-104(1.5) CRS.
only a repeal of TABOR and/or this statute will remedy this situation.
by buffalotom on Dec 17, 2009 4:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Join the Pac 10 imo
Maybe we could pick up some more money in the Pac 10 or 12 Pac. Does sound a lot sexier playing USC Oregon and Cal then Kstate and Iowa State…
by Ever on Dec 17, 2009 6:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
$$$
We need a sugar daddy, ala Boone Pickens or Joe Jermain(UT), not the little $5k-$10k per year clowns we have now!
Okay, I appreciate their big-fish-in-a-small-pond efforts, but the multi-millionaires and billionaires in this state, whom we really need, are not “BUFFS” nor do they care much for sports! Too interested in gay rights and other political BS. Jared Polis coulda funded the practice bubble with his pocket change, but Noooooo, we get the fiscal disaster of Amendment 23.
Whatever else you think of him, Bohn’s done a yeoman’s job fund-raising for the AD so far, given the playing field in Colorado. We need BIG BUCKS donors to step up and rather than repeal TABOR, we need CU to go private!
by Cholo on Dec 19, 2009 2:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for supporting CU athletics
but if people choose to spend their money supporting causes like gay rights and “other political BS”, who the fuck are we to get all up in arms about it? So a guy isn’t a sports fan and doesn’t show any interest in showering a college program with money he’s made over the years and we attack him for that? Seriously??
Some of the schools that have the big, big money donors are indeed very lucky. It must be nice. That isn’t who we are and as far as I know it isn’t who we were when we won a national championship, either. Just because Jared Polis isn’t showering CU with green handshakes doesn’t mean we should go off on a tangent attacking him.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 20, 2009 5:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
You’re the guy at the beginning of the season who was talking trash to anyone that had concerns or anything negative to say about the direction the team was headed, right? Yeah, you were right on the money with that, what a smashing success this season was… and now you come back 4 months later with this?
Slam already summed it up nicely, but you’re criticizing the people who DO give money (the 5k-10k “clowns”) and calling out Jared Polis? The guy didn’t go to CU! Exactly like you said, he’s not a Buff and he probably doesn’t “care much for sports!” God forbid he puts his hard earned money towards issues he actually CARES ABOUT. What a bizarre concept, huh?
by nebraskasux on Dec 20, 2009 8:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What would going private do?
Look at Norte Dame, they have more money than anyone, they have their own TV contract, yet they still can’t win. It comes down to good coaching and good players. Plenty of school with limited budgets compete, and plenty of schools with huge budgets stink. Bottom line, going private would do nothing except make CU into Northwestern or Baylor. A private school with limited resources that will struggle to compete every year.
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