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Initial Reaction to the Report of Dan Hawkins Being Retained As Colorado's Head Coach

I am not going to lie, I didn't expect Dan Hawkins to be back at the helm of the Colorado football program in 2010. I am a results oriented guy.  I love statistics, l love the facts and love them because they are concrete, they aren't fictional. That is what makes sports great, it is definable by numbers. I am also a dreamer, I have visions of Colorado football back when I was a kid with Kordell Stewart at quarterback, I remember watching Colorado win bowl games. I remember when Colorado was a winner.

Now I am not saying I expect Colorado to compete with Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska every year. But, like in every profession in this world that involves highly compensated individuals, you expect progress. You expect results and whether Mike Bohn, Dan Hawkins and Phil DiStefano care to acknowledge it or not, winning is the result.

To me, this decision cannot be defended by looking at the numbers and I struggle with the current pieces being in place to deliver the end goal of being a successful football program any time soon. To me, the University of Colorado made the easy decision by keeping Dan Hawkins. It just fits right now with the level of commitment to athletics in Boulder compared to other Big 12 programs. Yep, the reasons are there not to be a successful program. We have heard them all before: the assistant coaches only receiving one year contracts, academic admissions are not realistic for athletes, Colorado is not near a hot bed of recruiting, facilities are out of date and the scandal of four years ago that Dan Hawkins continues to reference.

All of those are valid reasons for Colorado struggling and should not necessarily to be considered excuses. 

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But the dreamer in me envisioned a coach that wouldn't say, "if you only knew what we had to deal with four years ago, you would know this isn't an easy thing to get turned around." I pictured a coach where his team showed progress on the field, played hard on the road, his team didn't make excuses for looking past Colorado State, not allowing his players to play without energy on the road and not losing to programs like Toledo in year four, with all due respect.

I had visions of a coach who said he was going to fix it and meant it. A coach that would get the best out of his players each Saturday and if he didn't, he would demand it. He would demand things and fix things to win.

Today, the University of Colorado had a chance to send a message that it isn't acceptable to go 2 - 18 on the road. It isn't acceptable to lose to Toledo and Colorado State. It isn't acceptable winning less games in year four than in year two or year three with a much easier schedule. The University had a chance to say we want to be successful in athletics and winning only 33% of your games is not successful just like doing your job 33% of the time for every other profession isn't acceptable. Let's get this straight, Dan Hawkins' job is to win ball games. It is every coach's job to run a clean program as well, it isn't only relegated to Colorado. But like it or not, you can say the coaching profession is full of slimy individuals but winning is the goal.

But the University said, poor us. We are too poor, we don't have the facilities, we had the scandal. Translation: winning isn't the priority. Bottom line, it isn't the priority.

And that is the tough fact about being a Colorado Buffalo fan right now. The program isn't going to battle with winning in mind. And that is very obvious right now. Yes, all we can do and all we have control over is to root for the Buffs and hope it works out but it isn't easy.

Sure, keeping Dan Hawkins might turn out well next year and he could win 7 or 8 games and the Buffs could turn it all around. But what proof do we have that he can lead a team to victory on the road? What proof do we have that Dan Hawkins has made an improvement from year one to year four and that year five will be different?

Yes, their are more questions than answers right now.

So what is the judgment pole for Dan Hawkins next year?. Will four wins show improvement and allow Dan Hawkins to be here in 2011?

The next question is what took the University so long to announce Dan Hawkins would be returning in 2010 and why all of this discussion about an announcement? Obviously, Colorado was close to firing Dan Hawkins. What was the reason they didn't. Odds are, it was money, the money from the extension Dan Hawkins received in 2008 and the goal of winning not being THE priority. But I expect Colorado to lose plenty of money next year with Dan Hawkins as the head coach.

Like I said, I am a numbers guy:

Career
Record Win Loss %
All Games 16 32 33.3%
at Home 13 11 54.2%
on Road 2 18 10.0%
Nuetral Site 1 3 25.0%
Away from Folsom 3 21 12.5%
vs Conference 10 21 32.3%
vs. Non Conference 6 11 35.3%
vs. Ranked 3 11 21.4%
vs. Unranked 13 21 38.2%
August/Sept 7 10 41.2%
October 5 12 29.4%
November 4 10 28.6%
December/January 0 1 0.0%

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Is this confirmed?

Say it ain’t so. If it is, I give up!

by Chetster on Nov 25, 2009 8:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

not official but as close as it gets without

coming out of Mike Bohn’s mouth officially

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by irish1611 on Nov 26, 2009 6:20 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You're killing it!

I can’t wait to see how this decision is defended because as anyone who has followed the program the last four years realizes that this is completely indefensible. As I have said before, even if you throw the abissmal record out the window the complete mismanagement of players like Kasa, D Scott, JFly, Simmons, Simas, Hansen etc etc is just inexcusable. There is absolutely nothing that suggests that Hawk deserves another season.

And lets set the record straight, the situation Hawk took over in ’05 is arguably far better than the situation the program is in today. We had won 4 big 12 north titles in 5 years including going to a BCS bowl in 2001. What is there to suggest that we are anywhere close to that or even headed in that direction? We lost to teams like CSU 3-8 and at Toledo (still scratching my head as to why we traveled there to play) convincingly.

I’m just baffled by the decision. I can only see this as Bohn’s last hail mary pass to save his own ass. I don’t know how others feel but anything less than 8 or 9 wins next year will be unacceptable. A change should have been made but instead Bohn just doubled down while holding 16.

by NYCskibum on Nov 25, 2009 8:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

the mistake was made when Hawkins was given an extension...

completely irresponsible of Mr. Bohn to give him that kind of extension when hawkins hadn’t even won 50% of his games. What was Bohn afraid of? That Hawk would leave for greener pastures? Come on…..his kid was entering his Junior year. The 4 year extension put the University in a corner……it would have been so easy to just wait and see how the team performed this year before any contract negotiations took place.

Just a thought….when did Hawk make his “10 wins” statement? Was it before or after he received the extension?

by HBbuff on Nov 25, 2009 8:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

think it was after

regardless both were bohnhead moves.

by NYCskibum on Nov 25, 2009 8:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It was oct 2008 when Hawkins was given an extension

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by irish1611 on Nov 25, 2009 8:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, now

Extensions didn’t stop KU and K-State from firing their coaches.

All told, if worst-case scenarios unfold, Neil Cornrich could end up making $10 million for his clients (Prince and Mangino) at the expense of the State of Kansas.

Didn’t stop either of us. Because we’re in it to win.

by BracketCat on Nov 26, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha get your horns out

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by irish1611 on Nov 25, 2009 9:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Is the administration convinced at this point

that you can only win by (allegedly) recruiting athletes with sex and alcohol? I’m pretty sure it can be done other ways. They needn’t be worried about there being a connection between on-the-field success and negative publicity. In fact, I think it typically works the other way around.

by NoVABuff on Nov 25, 2009 9:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Welp

A .500 record next year under Hawkins will require a miracle. Hell 1 win on the road will convince me there is a God. At least we will all have plenty of time to lower our expectations and let the healing begin.

by runningdonut on Nov 25, 2009 9:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My fear is we are just dealing the rebuilding

Project by one year

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by irish1611 on Nov 25, 2009 9:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

more concerns

Aside from it perpetually being a waiting game with when is he going to be fired. How many players do you think are going to transfer or leave the team in the offseason? So we’ve got another lousy year of recruiting, less revenue next year than this, and losing players. Hell if this is Bohns idea for success I wouldn’t mind teaching history on campus. Apparently won’t matter than I can’t teach for shit.

by Ever on Nov 25, 2009 11:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I still can't wrap my head around all of this.

This appears to be a similar situation to that of Nebraska with Stevie P and Billy C. Pederson wouldn’t fire his golden boy no matter how bad a product he put on the field.

It would seem as though CU has recovered from “the scandal,” if not financially, then at least by time’s sake.

As an outsider looking in, I can’t imagine what it would be like to have a chancellor essentially state that athletics have no room at their university, not with his words, but by his actions. CU is a Big XII school, along with that comes an expectation. If CU’s chancellor wants out, there’s a warm seat for TCU at the table. By giving up that seat CU stands to lose more money than they could ever imagine. 1/12 of the money the Big XII gets annually from the BCS, ticket sales, merchandise. All lost. Mind you, approx 1/3 of that money actually gets used on athletics, the rest goes towards academics.

I just don’t get it…

GBR!!!

by Screwface on Nov 26, 2009 12:21 AM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

i think

we were 2-18 prior to our osu loss…. an even better road record now

by The Notorious R.O.B on Nov 26, 2009 6:58 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

The Florida State game last year is technically a nuetral site

but yes, you could say 2 – 19. Away from Folsom, 3 – 21

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by irish1611 on Nov 26, 2009 7:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If this is true

there is nothing left to do but deal with him being our coach. We are going to have all but Geer back on offense and some of his recruits are going to have to step in on defense. The frightening thing is with the secondary. If Smith decides to leave we will be very young at secondary and that could cost us again. He is our coach and regardless of how bad a record and job he has done, we need to support the team and hope some of his excuses over the last year were real. If it was about the youth and experience maybe next year will start the turn around. I said maybe, I am trying to make the best of a bad situation.

by BuffinCuse on Nov 26, 2009 7:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

We can't be forced to keep Hawk!!!

Great post Irish 1611! Listen guys, we have to do something here! I will write a check today for $1000 and I am sure we can get 500 to 1000 others to do the same. I can’t sit back and let our beloved program go to hell just for a few simple $$$$$$$. I will also agree to send another $1000 next yr to help cover the buyout- Together, with a few bigger donors, we can reach the dollars needed for this buy out- and then we can present a check to the University. C’mon guys!! Let’s get an e-mail to Mr Bohn and see what happens. Hell, even if we came up with $ 1 million, that would have to help offset this disaster. Thoughts? It is just a few dollars.

by CbusBuff on Nov 26, 2009 7:55 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I would absolutely contribute.

But I think the money was there. I think this decision was Bohn trying to save his own ass by justifying the extension. I will be very interested to see how this decision is justified and I hope that the media at the press conference are willing to ask the tough questions.

by NYCskibum on Nov 26, 2009 8:18 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Contributing would be

a lot easier if you had faith in the people who were making the decisions. Talking to a few inside sources, a lot of big donors said no because they had zero trust in the next decision Bohn would make.

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by irish1611 on Nov 26, 2009 8:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe this!!!!!

When I heard this scum bag was being retained, I damned near puked! Next Tue., when the trashman makes his rounds, every f****’in hat, shirt, and jacket will be in there! If Bohn wants to keep this sorry assed bastard around, fine, but my wife and I will never spend another God damned dime on the school, and our wills are going to be changed also, not leaving one Lincoln penny, especially if there’s a chance Bohn could get it!! PISS ON ’EM !

by 49 Fan on Nov 27, 2009 4:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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