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Colorado_mediumWoelk: Decision on Hawkins` future must come soon - Buffzone

It means that very soon, athletic director Mike Bohn and chancellor Phil DiStefano must come to a decision. Clearly, the program is nowhere close to where Bohn envisioned it being when he hired Hawkins. When Bohn managed to land one of the nation`s hottest young coaching prospects in December of 2005, he certainly never thought he`d be contemplating another change just four years later. Now such a decision is a distinct possibility. Today, I`m still not ready to say a change would be in the best interest of the program and the university. But, whatever decision is reached, it must be reached soon. After Saturday`s effort at Iowa State, waiting for the outcome of the last two games makes absolutely no sense. Bohn and DiStefano must sit down as soon as possible and examine the situation from every angle. Economics. Possible fallout from all sides. Recruiting. Next year`s schedule. Returning players. Then make a decision and move on. Let Hawkins know whether he`ll be here next year or not. If he`s going to be the head coach, make it known so he can begin to reassure recruits, contemplate staff changes and move on with business. If not, give him and his staff the opportunity to assess their futures. But whatever the decision, make it soon. Waiting will only increase the questions hanging over the program while doing nothing in terms of moving forward. Simply, a quick resolution is the only sensible solution.

Colorado_mediumBowl ineligibility befalls Buffs - The Denver Post

Hawkins' problem is, in his fourth year, his team is going in the opposite direction of two rebuilding programs that beat him with first-year coaches. Paul Rhoads' Cyclones (6-5, 3-4) joined Kansas State in downing the Buffs at home. This time the nearly packed house of 43,208 stormed the field, celebrating bowl eligibility a year after going 2-10. Once again, offensive ineptitude on the road crippled Colorado. CU scored one touchdown against the second- worst defense in the league. That doubled its number of TDs in the past 10 quarters on the road to two.

Colorado_mediumCU Buffs bowl hopes end in another road wreck - Boulder Daily Camera

The signs are all there and they`re pointing toward a coaching change at Colorado. The football team isn`t playing well when it desperately needs to. Athletic director Mike Bohn, who just three months ago robustly defended head coach Dan Hawkins, turned away requests for comment after another loss Saturday.

Colorado_mediumBuffs lose 17-10 at Iowa State - The Denver Post

Lacking a killer instinct, Colorado (3-7, 2-4 Big 12) produced just three points — total — out of four possession inside the ISU 10-yard line, committed costly, careless penalties and set up Iowa State's third-quarter touchdown with a turnover. "We went from being one of the better teams in the red zone in the country to one of the worst," Colorado coach Dan Hawkins said.

Colorado_mediumSame old story for Buffs - The Longmont Times-Call

Hawkins, repeating another familiar line, said it just came down to a couple of plays. "Particularly with this group of guys, when you have a big play against you, there’s a huge momentum thing going on," Hawkins said. "We just have to be able to counter that a little bit better."

Colorado_mediumCU vs. Iowa State Game Quotes
Momentum thing, rhythm thing, confidence thing...blah, blah, blah, blah

On poor passing game
"On the first drive we had a couple of drops. You talk about that rhythm thing and that confidence thing and that momentum thing. A couple of drops on the first drive took us out of rhythm."

Star-divide

Colorado_mediumThe Longmont Times-Call

From CU offensive coordinator Eric Kiesau: "The frustrating part is the turnovers and the penalties. We’re not getting outschemed. We know what they’re doing. If we eliminate turnovers and penalties, this is a completely different ball club." CU committed 11 penalties and three turnovers Saturday. CU was also 2-for-14 on third down conversions.

Colorado_mediumBruising running game paves way for OSU - Big 12 Blog - ESPN
The Colorado Buffaloes next opponent, Oklahoma State, had a good win last night against Texas Tech but lost their starting quarterback in the process. Zac Robinson was hit hard late in the game and supposedly has a concussion.

One negative coming out of the game was an apparent concussion sustained by OSU quarterback Zac Robinson on a devastating hit by Tech cornerback Jamar Wall. With the Cowboys playing Thursday night against Colorado, it might be asking a lot for Robinson to return to action that soon. And Robinson was the key before his injury. He piled up a team-high 97 yards. Keith Toston added 78 and Kendall Hunter had his most impressive performance since returning from his foot injury with 70 tough yards on 17 carries.

Colorado_mediumTwo key fumbles put Stewart in tough situation - The Denver Post

Stewart lost two fumbles, both coming at crucial times in the second half. His first turnover, on the Colorado 33-yard line, occurred early in the third quarter. That set up Iowa State's final touchdown and, ultimately, the Cyclones' winning score. The second turnover came at the end of a 7-yard run to the ISU 8 on a hit by safety David Sims, ending a CU threat early in the fourth quarter.

Colorado_mediumGivens' strange season takes another turn - The Longmont Times-Call

The strange season Bryce Givens is enduring in his redshirt freshman year at Colorado took another twist during Saturday’s 17-10 loss at Iowa State. Givens, making his first start Saturday since the Big 12 opener at Texas, was called for a personal foul during the third quarter for hitting an Iowa State pass rusher in the face as quarterback Tyler Hansen scrambled to the Cyclones’ 2 on first-and-goal. After Givens turned and said something to referee Tom Walker, Walker picked his flag up off the ground and tossed it high into the air to call a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. The penalties gave CU a first-and-goal at the 39. The drive ended when kicker Aric Goodman missed from 42 yards. Coaches pulled Givens from the game and he did not return. Ryan Dannewitz took his place at right tackle.

Colorado_mediumISU Football: Cyclones beat Colorado, become bowl eligible - The Des Moines Register

They reached bowl eligibility for the first time since 2005 after a 17-10 win against Colorado before a boisterous 43,208 who held breaths as the Buffaloes tossed the ball around backwards on the final play before finally ending 69 yards from the end zone.

Colorado_mediumGo Cyclones - ISU bowl eligible after Colorado win

Colorado_mediumIowa State beats Colorado 17-10 and Cyclones become bowl eligible - KansasCity.com

For some programs, reaching bowl eligibility is little more than a footnote. It’s a much bigger deal for Iowa State. Picked to finish last in the Big 12 North, the Cyclones can at least dream of their first bowl bid since 2005 after beating Colorado 17-10 on Saturday for their sixth win.

Colorado_mediumCU players say they`ll play for pride - Boulder Daily Camera

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"Today, I`m still not ready to say a change would be in the best interest of the program and the university."

What exactly is he waiting for? I realize he has to maintain some sort of relationship with Hawk but come on.

He is right on about needing to make a decision soon. If Hawk is going to be here next year Bohn need to come out and say that this week.

by NYCskibum on Nov 15, 2009 9:05 AM MST reply actions  

Hawkins MUST Go, Bohn Should

There’s no need to go over plowed ground, but I will a bit.

Despite what Hawkins says, these are primarily his players under his system.
They aren’t that “young” anymore.
The team isn’t getting any better and is in fact getting worse.
The players and coaches make the same mistakes week after week after week, and even add a few new ones.
The Darrell Scott affair revealed to gulf between the nurturing and coaching the team deserves and what they get.
“Hawk Love” isn’t – Hawkins speaks of the team as “they” and “them” without acknowledging his own failings or accepting his own limitations.
CU cannot hide behind the “academic standards” canard – TCU, GT, Stanford, UNC, even Texas, UGA, et al., et al.

That Hawkins has to go is a foregone conclusion to any rational human being. Bohn should go for giving Hawkins and unwarranted extension and raise, for not recognizing the gravity of this situation sooner, and for allowing it to continue as long as it has.

by Chetster on Nov 15, 2009 9:31 AM MST reply actions  

obvious hawk is gone. the question now is who will replace him? some of the names that have surfaced dont seem likely incuding logan. i cant imagine tuberville was in boulder last wk to discuss football as rumored. out of all of the names i have heard, embree seems the most likely. available, affordable, support from major boosters. who else is there?

by hybernatingbuff on Nov 15, 2009 1:55 PM MST reply actions  

Players play for pride?

Really, how about some of that pride earlier this year, what the hell were they playing for then? Hawkins must go, Denver Johnson can join his sorry ass on the way out the door.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman

by Broncoman on Nov 15, 2009 1:57 PM MST reply actions  

Nebraska Comparison

I can remember watching Callahan’s last season for NU truly feeling sorry for the players. Sad thing is we are looking eerily similar to that. I believe the players have all but given up. I truly believe the players are tired of losing, but it appears they don’t have enough confidence in D. Hawkins to lead the way.

I’m like alot of you, I’m optimistic about the future, however I don’t think Hawkins brings enough fire / discipline / accountability to the team. Who says we have to wait 2-3 years after firing a head coach to right the ship …? KSU has turned it around within one year! Nebraska went to a bowl game last year under a first year head coach! What in the heck do you think we have to lose, it’s not like we’ve been bowling every year since Hawkins came on board. Besides, the year we DID go to the Indy Bowl we weren’t really setting the world on fire. No to mention last year’s team who’s whole season came down to a field goal …

So what if we have to buy Hawkins contract out, I mean does anyone really want to gamble on wasting another year and next year around this time wishing we were already one year in with a new coach?

by jwe1747 on Nov 15, 2009 4:06 PM MST reply actions  

I agree

We have some decent talent. They just seem to be lacking an emotional leader on and off the field who will give them the spark that will translate into confidence, execution, etc. So it’s not a TOTAL re-build. We can be a competitive team with this group of guys and some fresh athletic recruits who want to come in a draw a line in the sand saying “We are the new Colorado.”

by BuffsCrock on Nov 15, 2009 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Hawkins gone?

I dont think this site is too reliable, but they are reporting hawk will get bought out….
Too much to hope for?

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

by buffs15 on Nov 15, 2009 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

some what believable until i read this

Colorado:
Sources tell FootballCoachScoop that AD Mike Bohn is entertaining the idea of Mike Shannahan/Kyle Shannahan team as Head Coach. Sources close to
the situation tell us that Bohn sees the advantage of what Tennessee has done with the Kiffin’s.

by NYCskibum on Nov 15, 2009 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

fun to talk about a possible shannahan regime in boulder but...

hard to believe like you said

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by Bob_Bell on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions  

How about Laurel and Hardy?

We’ve already had the three stooges…

by BuffnBigD on Nov 15, 2009 7:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Too funny, does Mike Bohn read my threads

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman

by Broncoman on Nov 15, 2009 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

If this has any truth, I would be tickled pink

FootballCoachScoop sources confirm that AD Mike Bohn met with Mike Shanahan, former Denver Broncos Head Coach, today to discuss future
possibilities with the Colorado Football Program.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman

by Broncoman on Nov 15, 2009 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Another update from the same site:

Sources close to the situation tell us that AD Mike Bohn is planning on speaking with Eric Bieniemy (former CU player and current Minnesota Vikings
Running Backs coach) and Jeremy Bates (USC Offensive Coordinator) who previously worked as OC for Denver Broncos.

by NoVABuff on Nov 16, 2009 7:45 AM MST reply actions  

Does CU get a rebate on Hawkins?

I think it is safe to say Hawkins won’t be the 5th coach that Neinas placed that became a National champion.

The pride and tradition of the Colorado Buffaloes will not be entrusted to the timid or the weak.
"All coaching is, is taking a player where he can't take himself" Bill McCartney

by TraderJesse on Nov 16, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I hadn't seen that either

Interesting stuff about Bohn’s relationship with Neinas.
Hmmm. Conspiracy theory coming up:
Could the reason that Bohn doesn’t fire Hawkins be that he doesn’t want to further tarnish the success record of Neinas’ firm?

It’s a stretch

DAG

by DavidAGerhardt on Nov 16, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

The real reason Shanny and Bohn had lunch?

Possibly to discuss Shanahan’s opinion of Jeremy Bates — who once worked for him.

I’d love the Mike S + Kyle S option, but it just seems far-fetched to me. I think Bohn was getting a personal reference on another candidate.

by JustmyOp on Nov 16, 2009 12:54 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Could be, but I think hiring Bates would be very risky

Bates basically has not had a steller run as a OC at USC and he has no proven track record he can or could recruit, I don’t see why he would have lunch with Shanahan to discuss a canidate other than Mike or Kyle, it is not like the University of Minnasota had lunch with Shanahan to discuss Tim Brewster or Air Force had lunch to discuss Troy Calhoun, if he wants to know about Bates, I am sure he could call Shanahan and get an honest opinion and save the University a few bucks, I really think if they did have a meeting it would be to discuss Kyle and Mike taking over the program.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman

by Broncoman on Nov 16, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions  

One possible other idea

Maybe they were there to discuss Dave Logan, maybe Shanahan is acting as a intermediary between Dave and Mike Bohn, Shanahan has said that he thinks Dave Logan has a great mind for football, but I think Logan is pissed at Bohn for not even really considering him last time, maybe Bohn is trying to see if Logan would be interested and if Shanahan thinks Logan could do well at the D-I level.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman

by Broncoman on Nov 16, 2009 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Dave Logan is obviously a great high school coach

but I’d be weary about him moving from HS head coach to D1 head coach. I’d rather see him as an assistant at the NCAA level first.

by NoVABuff on Nov 16, 2009 11:08 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed 100%

Changed my SBN user name from WoodrowWilson.
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by Jon Woods on Nov 17, 2009 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

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