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Saturday Morning Buff Bites - Apathy is Dangerous

Sorry for no post yesterday. I started to write a recap trust me but I couldn't finish. It was a re-run, sounded exactly like every other recap I had done on this site for the last year and a half except for the fact that West Virginia tried to give the Buffs the game with four turnovers. Of course, the Buffs gave it right back to them with three turnovers and three missed field goals. The post game article immediately turned to (again) "I don't know where we go from here" and I wanted throw my computer out the window.  Doesn't that sound like what we have been saying for a while now?

Reality has officially set in. And it might be reality for years to come.

It is like one person said in our live game thread two nights ago, "give me one player in the Dan Hawkins era who has actually improved and gotten better?" I threw out Brad Jones as a possibility but when you think about that, how many players can you say that this coaching staff has taken with raw talent and molded them into a better football player? How many players have come in heralded and really reached their full potential? That comment was incredibly powerful. It is powerful because the players the Buffs are playing with now, who are starting now are probably the players that are going to be starting next year and the year after that. Will we see improvement? 

Speed and tenacity are two of the most visible traits this Buffs' team is lacking. The team doesn't play inspired, doesn't play angry and doesn't seem all that concerned. When was the last time a Buff player absolutely decleated someone? Or the last time an opposing teams players was visibly injured by a crushing Buff hit? The Buffs are a very soft football team. After four years, speed is something that should have been corrected through recruiting. But their will certainly be an excuse for that, I am sure of it. In fact, the only thing the Buffs do well is provide excuses and have comments like this:

"The other side of it is, I was proud of the way they battled. ... That's our best effort, by far," said Dan Hawkins.

We are satisfied, in fact "proud" with battling, scrapping, effort, playing good competition? Coach, you should be absolutely livid. Four turnovers should equal wins in college football, almost regardless of who you play. To be given the ball four times from turnovers as a Big 12 team should equal a win 100% of the time. But only the Buffs would miss three field goals, give up big plays and turn the ball over three teams to less than stellar West Virginia team and be "proud" of the way our guys battled. That line doesn't work anymore. I know a bunch of people who pay to go to Buff games who are not "proud" of anything.

All I know is that right now Mike Bohn and Dan Hawkins have a big problem on their hands. Your program is being tuned off. Your program is creating an apathetic fan base that is starting not to care. Remember after the first two games of the season, all the "Fire Hawk" threads and "this isn't acceptable" fan posts? Must have been 20 in the first two weeks of the season. That was a fan base angry on all accounts. That was a fan base who cared and were tricked into believing progress was occuring, that Dan Hawkins recruited speed and that we were going to see exciting football in 2009. Now, on October 2nd, maybe one or two fan posts will go up. This program is headed down a dark, dark path and something needs to happen soon to shake things up. The fans are starting to become disinterested and that only means less attendance and less money going into the program. Next, you are going to see players leaving and quitting football all together. Then you are going to find that getting a decent coach in here will be hard to do the longer this continues. You have to do something before this gets completely out of hand.

Does this definition describe any of you: An apathetic individual has an absence of interest or concern to emotional, social, or physical life. They may also exhibit an insensibility or sluggishness. 1. absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement. 2. lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.

Apathy is a very dangerous route to go. This season has been long and tiring after four weeks and is completely taking the enjoyment out of college football, something that many others find moving and exciting.

The writers over at CollegeFootballNews had a couple very intelligent paragraphs about the Buffs in their recap that just straight up tell the truth about this program right now:

But more than the apparent talent gap is the inability to come up with the big plays needed to change games. Good teams make their own breaks, and every time there's something big and important happening in a Colorado game, it's almost always happening for the other team. As good as Stewart was this week, he wasn't Noel Devine. Even though the Buffs came up with four takeaways, they didn't seem to hurt as much as the three interceptions. When the Buffs needed a clutch field goal, unlike last year in the overtime win over the Mountaineers, Aric Goodman didn't come through. — Pete Fiutak

2. For the record, Colorado just doesn't have A-list, big-boy-table talent to compete at the highest levels of the Big 12. West Virginia owned a tougher line, faster setbacks and a defensive front that could generate more pressure. But if recruiting — and not necessarily X's and O's — is the main problem in Boulder, it doesn't change the bottom-line reality: Dan Hawkins, a decent man in a cutthroat profession, hasn't done his job well and shows no signs of emerging from his present-day struggles. Good people fail. Bad people succeed. Another pair of life's harsh realities. — Matt Zemek

Sometimes, the truth hurts. Good people fail. Bad people succeed. Another pair of life's harsh realities.

more links after the jump...

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Colorado_mediumBohn exploring more ways to raise money for CU - Boulder Daily Camera

The University of Colorado is exploring naming rights opportunities for Folsom Field that could pump millions into an athletic department badly in need of additional revenue outside its traditional sources.

Colorado_mediumBuffaloes need to think big - Boulder Daily Camera
Kyle Ringo on the lack of big plays by the Buffs:

CU players and coaches say they have that capability, too, but they haven`t proven it like their opponents have. While its defense has given up 11 plays of 40 yards or more through nonconference play, the CU offense has produced just two plays of 40 or more yards and the Buffs didn`t score on either of them.

Colorado_mediumRebs: homecoming kings - The Denver Post
On a positive front, Buff commit Danny Spond continues to prove why he is a great talent:

If it seemed like the University of Colorado-bound senior was everywhere — including escorting his Homecoming Queen candidate across the field at halftime — it was because he was. In an evening that ended early because of the lopsided nature of the game, Spond threw for two touchdowns and ran for another. Playing safety on defense, he also intercepted a pass that led to a score.

Colorado_mediumThe Longmont Times-Call - Opportunity lost for CU

"That’s our best effort, by far, and that’s a very good football team right there," Hawkins said. "Athletically, I think those guys can match up with a lot of football teams on our schedule, and our guys are starting to figure out what it takes to compete at that level."

Colorado_mediumHeadlinin': LeGarrette Blount, back in the saddle? - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports

But the fact this morning is that Colorado is a struggling team with a turnover-prone quarterback, no playmakers on offense, no speed on defense (the CU secondary's attempt to tackle Bradley Starks on his 48-yard touchdown catch in the third quarter was comical, as was its efforts to lay a finger on Noel Devine, who had 220 yards on 10 per carry) and forthcoming games against top-20 foes Texas and Kansas en route to an unavoidable 1-5 start -- i.e. exactly who we thought they were.

Colorado_mediumWoelk: Key mistakes squander CU's chance to steal win - Buffzone

After the game, Buff head coach Dan Hawkins did his best to sound upbeat. "I thought this was our best game by far, no doubt," he told KOA radio. "Our guys battled and scrapped." But trouble is, CU fans are no longer content to hear "battled and scrapped," not in the fourth game of the head coach's fourth year. With a meeting with No. 2 Texas dead ahead, 1-3 looks very much like 1-4 -- and we won't even hazard a guess as to what happens the week after when Kansas visits Boulder. Simply, there are issues that should have been solved by now. While we were less than impressed with the play of WVU's Brown (148 yards passing and his share of missed receivers), he at least brings to the table the ability to run.

Colorado_mediumBuffs need balance from top playmakers - The Denver Post
Same old story, different day:

Until the clock showed 6 1/2 minutes remained in West Virginia's 35-24 victory Thursday night, only one Colorado wide receiver had a catch. Scotty McKnight.

Colorado_mediumMissed opportunities doom CU Buffs - Boulder Daily Camera

Colorado_mediumAnalyzing CU’s loss in Morgantown : All Things Colorado Sports Colorado
A good assessment by Tom Kensler of the Denver Post:

*** It’s impossible to tell from the pressbox, but those missed field goals by junior Aric Goodman must be psychologically devastating for the team. Goodman has a good leg and, on the surface, at least, he appears confident. But against a quality opponent, CU can’t afford three misfires. Aric is a good guy and class act, and Buffs fans should be pulling for him. But at some point, Colorado may be forced to try someone else, perhaps walk-on Ryan Aweida. I’m sure recruiting a kicker for the 2010 class has become a priority. With CU’s tradition of producing All-American kickers and punters, I’d think the Buffs could – or at least should — land a good one following a national search.

Colorado_mediumLost Opportunities Haunt Buffs In 35-24 Setback - CUBuffs.com

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The more I thought about this article the more it hits home. As I sit here this Saturday morning I’m pretty depressed becasue I have nothing in term of College Football to be excited about today because my Buffs…. Well, they are in a sorry state and I don’t see it changing for a long time.

I was initially resistant to a coaching change because I know with that comes a couple years of painful “rebuilding” and the thought of several more seasons of this embarrasment and dissapointment is something I don’t like. But, looking closer, I’m more and more convinced it necessary. I think Dan has lost his team and apathy has indeed set in. I think the only way to get a spark back, and for a volume of good recruits to consider CU again, a change is necessary, if for nothing else a change for the sake of change. Re-introducing excitement and confidence does not come by means of doing nothing different

I still cannot for the life of me understand why after 4 games the players picked to do great things this year, just don’t get the ball (specifically Simas and Simmons). If it takes this long to coach the kids to be a position to get the ball, then I question the coaching.

I do think there is a core talent level on this team that is there. I just hope we can supplement this core with additional playmakers and direction before the program is so far gone its too late.

Signed, BlueNBigD……

by BuffnBigD on Oct 3, 2009 9:38 AM MDT reply actions  

Most troubling

We can all tell that the Buffs are to slow and also very young team. These problems can be fixed with time and recruiting. The most troubling thing is Hawkins thought this team could win 10 games. He just doesn’t know what it takes to win in the Big12

by buffalobeach on Oct 3, 2009 10:42 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Spot On

The top question you posted about player improvement was mine, and I didn’t really mean it about Hawkins. I meant it about the assistants. I have become increasingly distressed about our limitations in hiring good assistants because of TABOR, coupled with schools like Tennessee breaking the bank for assistants. Increasingly, I feel like assistants should provide the fire, and head coaches should behave exactly like Hawkins has. But that’s not the reality of our program. Bienemy used to be our fire. He was our Will Muschamp. But he left for more security, and good on him. Hagan has not been that guy. Hagan couldn’t get his own kid to come to Boulder. Increasingly, our assistants act like guys just happy to have a job. It’s extremely distressing, and not at all beneficial for a BCS level program.

But Hawkins isn’t helping. He doesn’t seem to set the bar where we say, “this is unacceptable.” Because the offense we see every week is unacceptable. It seems like we’re resigned to having a team of good young men and refuse to require good young football players. There has been no one in the world more supportive of Hawkins than me, but I lost my faith after the WIN, when we appeared to be resigned to running the same tentative offense that we’ve run for the last 3 years. And I’m also the person who posted at the top of the 2nd half thread that I’m in danger of just not caring. I’m resigned to the fact that we’ll never be Texas or Florida, but I absolutely refuse to believe that we can’t be Texas Tech or Oregon State. Our national profile isn’t what a lot of fans seem to believe it is, but we absolutely deserve to think that we’re RELEVANT, and that just isn’t happening. Hawkins has done a great job of patching holes in the dike, but he’s shown no ability to build a new aqueduct (in keeping with the metaphor), and that’s just not okay. We need progress, and after 3+ years, we’ve seen none. From anyone within he program

Free Clark Evans

by Hallux Valgus on Oct 3, 2009 11:28 AM MDT reply actions  

and that Kensler column is infuriating

We just signed a fucking kicker. We specifically didn’t recruit a kicker this cycle because WE JUST SIGNED ONE. Use Grossnickle. Use Evans. Use Orms. Use Darden. It can’t be worse than what we’ve got now. It just can’t.

Free Clark Evans

by Hallux Valgus on Oct 3, 2009 11:58 AM MDT reply actions  

Goodman was doing fine first three games

We have other kickers who can step up if he doesn’t get it together.

I went back and looked at the freshman’s highlights again on youtube. Still impressed.
Not sure why Hawkins said he was taking another kicker, unless Kip Smith has indicated he would decommit from Minn.

But Aweida and Grossnickle ought to be ready, just in case.

I agree: Kensler’s column made zero sense.

by JustmyOp on Oct 4, 2009 7:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Go Buffs!

We knew 3 & 4 years ago that we weren’t getting the guys with speed. The guys we tried to get who had speed were signing elsewhere. The guys we got, were heavily debated upon whether they were fast enough. We are seeing the answer to that question now. This is where we are as far as recruiting goes. Should we instead go after 3 & 2 star talent that has speed but without football grit & IQ? That would probably have have to be our nitche. The better kids are still going to think hard on the Buffs. Then we’ll bitch about these kids who are fast but soft and don’t know how to play football.

I do believe we have more speed than we did with Gary’s final teams & recruits. So we are better off and showing progress.

As far as apathy goes, yes I see it, much like I experienced in the early to mid 80’s. even and especially under coach Mac.

Year——-Coach———————-(Win - Loss—Tie)——-Pct.——PF——PA——Delta
-———————————————————————————————————————————————-
1979—-Chuck Fairbanks——(3—-8—-0)——27%——-168——-274——-(- 106)
1980—-Chuck Fairbanks——(1—10—-0)——9%——-160——-451——-(- 291)
1981—-Chuck Fairbanks——(3—-8—-0)——27%——-141——-322——-(- 181)
1982—- Bill McCartney -- (2—-8—-1) -- 23% -—160——-301——-(- 141)
1983—- Bill McCartney -- (4—-7—-0) -- 36% -—252——-342——-(- 90)
1984—- Bill McCartney -- (1—-10—1) -- 9% -—172——-364——-(- 192)
1985—- Bill McCartney -- (7—-5—-0) -- 58% -—228——-174——- +54
1986—- Bill McCartney -- (6—-6—-0) -- 50% -—242——-193——- +49
1987—- Bill McCartney -- (7—-4—-0) -- 64% -—268——-180——- +88

Things were getting better under Mac, but the apathy was huge, as well as the negativity towards the program. Even when his teams won some more games, the apathy was there and a lag before people actually really believed we had a good team.

It’s all part of the rebuilding process that I now truly believe CU will go through every 20 years or so. Especially in an era with the greater parity in CFB than ever before (how many upsets so far this year?)

 If it’s apathy that helps me in the lean times, it keeps me going to the games and cheering for the kids. I still like Hawkins. He may be more of a father figure than an “X & O” coach. He just might end up surprising us much as Mac did, when all were calling for his head in the early 80’s.

I do believe this team has better talent and is heading in the right direction, and I’m resolved to stick with Hawkins thru the end of his contract. (take a look at Gary Pinkle and Missouri).

Though the speed issue has made us very vulnerable big plays which ultimately have killed us. I’m seeing a lot of good stuff as well on the field, and enjoying the games and supporting the coaches and kids, which some might label as apathy

Go Buffs!!

by jahbrah on Oct 3, 2009 1:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Sad but true...

I agree with the post above in a lot of respects. I truly wish that Hawk was more Xs and Os (i.e. I wish he could take over the playcalling effectively). Say we fire Hawk and bury ourselves in another $3.4 million. Honestly, who are we going to hire? Brian Kelly? No, he wouldn’t touch CU with a 10-foot pole. I think he’s going to wait out for Penn State, Notre Dame or maybe FSU (assuming Fisher continues to suck as OC and they buy out his contract). Plus, Dantonio built most of that program so I don’t totally believe in Kelly yet. Chris Peterson and Kevin Sumlin? No. Why do we want another young, unproven coach at from a weak conference with a wacky offense that may not work in the Big 12 and coming from a program built by somone else (Dick Koettner then Hawkins for BSU, Mike Price and then Art Briles at Houston). Charlie Strong? Any other “hot” assistant? CU is a stepping stone job now. Maybe Strong would stick around assuming he could produce wins but I wouldn’t be shocked if he left after a few years and returned to the SEC or ACC after achieving some success, but why wouldn’t he just take a job in one of those conferences after this year vs. CU? (i.e. Virginia, possibly Maryland for example). Maybe a bad year will enable CU to retain our assistants and build on experience and continuity with lower expectations. Say we go 2-10 this year, will CU be attractive to “hot” coaching prospects? Probably not. Mizzou, OSU and Kansas have already passed us entering a new decade (with Baylor rapidly catching up). If we go 4-8 next year under Hawk and then fire him, at least we save some money and I don’t think our rapidly crumbling reputation could possibly be much worse than where it’s going now. I’m going to very tepidly rally behind Hawk, if only for the players’ sake who deserve it for all of their hard work.

by BuffFiend87 on Oct 3, 2009 2:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Good people succeed too

I haven’t read all the posts so someone may have made this point, nor am I saying that the intent of the remark above was to suggest we should hire a “bad” coach – but there have been plenty of successful coaches through the years who ran successful, clean programs, and are doing so today. We can have character and success, high graduation rates, and a “total” program that merits and generates great pride.

by Chetster on Oct 3, 2009 4:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Count me apathetic

As I watch Washington give the Gold Domers all they can handle in South Bend, I’m even more frustrated at the current state of Buff football. UW was 0-12 last year and they’ve been competitive in every game they’ve played this year, including the upset of USC. Two entirely different situations, I know, but are they really? Some similarities include youth in key skill positions (WR, RB, DB, etc). The glaring diff is UW has a stud QB and a new coach who seems to “get it” when it comes to getting his team ready to play. As likable and honorable as Hawk is he’s not gotten it done.

As I’ve said before here, Hawk is going nowhere fast (a fiscal reality) and, sadly, neither are our Buffs. Not anytime in the immediate, anyway.

Irish and Jon, keep up the good work!

by mam2jd on Oct 3, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks mam2jd

I have that same feeling watching Washington as well…see the post right above the Buff Bites. Lots of former Buff recruits contributing for Washington and they are freshman…its about putting people in positions to be successful. If the playbook is too hard that it is not featuring your playmakers, you change the freaking playbook to fit your best chances to win.

Stubborn might be the best way to describe it.

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by Bob_Bell on Oct 3, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought I recognized Johnson

and I definitely recognized Trufant. they’d probably be red-shirting here, so they could learn the playbook.

Make no mistake, I bleed black n gold and will always support them. But it doesn’t mean I have to blindly follow these knuckleheads. Why can’t our coaches prep our youngsters like Sark’s guys? In the end it’s down to coaching, some folks have it and we don’t (WVU doesn’t either, Stewart’s a doofus). When you look at Caoch Mac’s staff, it reads like a who’s who of quality, respectable assistants, many of whom went on to be head coaches in Div I (Barnett, Nueheisel,DiNardo, Les Miles, Bob Simmons to name a few). Look at hawk’s staff . . . Romeo Bandison, Grimes . . .nuff said. If not for Cabral and Brown they’d be absolutely lost. And so we are where we are.LOST!

by mam2jd on Oct 3, 2009 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know about Brown

he needs to teach his guys a little bit about proper pursuit angles :-) But other than that I totally agree

by nebraskasux on Oct 3, 2009 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

good point

they do seem to be out of position at times. Especially Mahnke and Perkins. Maybe he’s resting on his laurels, somewhat. But hey, at least he’s had laurels to rest on. Deon Figures, Chris Hudson,etc.

by mam2jd on Oct 3, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Coach Ostrich

Instead of calling him coach Hawk it should be coach Ostrich? He sure appears to have his head buried in the sand. No matter how positive one can try to be, if praying for the sun to rise in west every morning, one will surely be disappointed as it’s going to continue to rise in the east.

by TraderJesse on Oct 3, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

starting to feel the apathy too

Great post and comments as usual. I agree with most of what’s been said already and will refrain from adding a longer comment since I’m reading and typing on my f’n phone – today my hard drive crashed like the Buffs’ season, which is just a craptacular book end to an already sub-optimal post-loss Saturday. Dammit Buffs, I wish I could quit you.

by highlandsbuff on Oct 3, 2009 8:24 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Is Scott Looking Forward to Visiting Austin?

Wonder if Darrell Scott is looking forward to his visit to Austin on Saturday? He was a non-factor in last year’s game in Boulder. Just curious if this recruiting battle prize of CU’s over UT has anything extra in him.

He can’t be happy with the lack of success both he and his team have had since he made that much-anticipated decision a few years back. A good game out of him could help the Buffs at least make the game against the Horns interesting.

by RMHorn on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Hawkins at BSU

I am a BSu fan and I honestly feel bad for you guys right now. When Hawkins took over Boise I was never that impressed with his aproach to the game. I am more of an X’s and O’s kind of player and he was a little to zen buddist bull $hit for my taste. When he left for Colorado and the Big 12 I honestly felt sick to my stomach for you guys. He just isn’t the type of coach that works in that kind of confrence. But losing him ment getting coach Pete and he is an X’s and O’s kind of guy. I really hope for you guys that Hawkins get canned soon so you can get your program turned in the right direction. Good luck on the rest of the year.

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by forseyfan36 on Oct 4, 2009 3:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks

It always bothered me how unaffected most of the Boise fans seemed to be by the loss of Hawkins. I distinctly remember a comment on a board somewhere “Sure, take Hawkins, you can have him. He wasn’t ever the guy anyway, it’s Peterson.”

Clearly, that comment was dead-on accurate.

by AllBroncsallday on Oct 5, 2009 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

quarterbacks

Every game this year when you compare qb’s, Colorado will always have the second best player. This means that at the game’s most influential position, you are always starting from a deficit. With this team, we do not have the talent to make it up. How can Coach Hawkins not see this. For the sake of the team let another qb have a chance.

by NoCOBuff on Oct 5, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions  

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