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So, we would like to hear from you, the readers, on how you think recruiting is going so far. After the avalanche of recruits in the past seven days (6 total with Nuckols, Kasa, Thornton, Webb, West and Grossnickle), the Buffs currently are winding down on their allotted amount of scholarships for the 2009 cycle. Coach Hawkins has stated that he wants to get 20 - 22 commits.  I have updated the offensive and defensive breakdowns we did a month ago by position by year after the jump for you to use a reference.

Here is what we would like to know:

1) What position is now the new priority #1 with the six or so remaining spots (use the charts after the jump if you need some help)? What is your reasoning and if you have a few players in mind, jot them down?

2) What is the one current commit that the Buffs cannot afford to lose between now and signing day?

3) Grade Dan Hawkins and Co's recruiting performance for 2009 so far? Have they underachieved, equaled or exceeded your expectations?

4) Right now, who is your favorite commit?

Don't be shy...we have got a lot of lurkers these days and want to hear what you have to say!

We will do this same thing in 15 days after signing day but we are at a good spot now to start grading this class.

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2009 Defensive Class Breakdowns
Pos. Senior Junior Sophomore Freshman Incoming
     DT Taj Kaynor Eric Lawson C Cunningham Will Pericak Nate Bonsu
Tyler Sale*   Eugene Goree   Edward Nuckols
     DE   M Herrod Lagrone Shields   Nick Kasa
  Conrad Obi  
Tony Poremba* J Forrest Webb
Kevin Cooney*  
     LB Marcus Burton BJ Beatty Tyler Ahles Lynn Katoa Derrick Webb
Shaun Mohler Micheal Sipili Josh Hartigen Jon Major  
Jeff Smart D Goldberg* Brandon Gouin* Doug Rippy
Bryan Stengel*   G Sergent*
     CB C Brown Jimmy Smith Anthony Wright   Deji Olatoye
Ben Burney Jalil Brown J Hawkins  
  Lamont Smith
     S   Bret Smith* Patrick Mahnke S Hicks Parker Orms
  A Perkins Vince Ewing  
T Sandersfield* Paul Vigo***
Matt Meyer*  
     P Matt DiLallo        
     K   Aric Goodman Jameson Davis   Z Grossnickle
     SP J Drescher A Bisnow*      
* walk on / ** potential medical redshirt / *** grey shirt 2008 class
Total 10 10 17 8 8
% 18.87% 18.87% 32.08% 15.09% 15.09%
Scholarship 8 7 12 7 5
Walk On 2 3 5 1 0

 

 

2009 Offensive Class Breakdowns
Pos. Senior Junior Sophomore Freshman Incoming
     QB   C Hawkins M Ballenger Cam Wright* Clark Evans
  T Hansen  
0 1 2 1 1
     RB Kevin Moyd Corey Nabors Darrell Scott Ray Polk  
  D Sumler R Stewart  
  B Lockridge
Arthur Jaffee*
1 2 4 1 0
     FB J Behrens Matt Burgner*    
1 1 0 0 0
     WR   S McKnight M Simas C Blackmon Jarrod Darden
Josh Smith Ryan Maxwell* P Bobseine* A Simmons
Cam Ham* J Espinoza* Dustin Ebner* Diante Jackson
  Sean Lieb*  
0 3 3 4 3
     TE Riar Geer   Ryan Deehan Ryan Wallace DaVaughn Thornton
Pat Devenny    
D. Shanahan*
L Walters*
4 0 1 1 1
     OL Devin Head Nate Solder Matt Bahr Max T-Mariner** Jack Harris
  Evan Eastburn Blake Behrens Bryce Givens Gus Handler
K Stevens* Ryan Miller** R Dannewitz  
  Ethan Adkins  
Shawn Daniels
Mike Iltis
Sione Tau
David Clark*
1 3 8 3 2
Total 7 10 18 10 7
% 13.46% 19.23% 34.62% 19.23% 13.46%
Scholar 5 7 14 6 7
Walk On 2 3 4 4 0

 

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1: Looks to me like the number 1 priority would be CB. We could use a couple more cover guys in this class. After that would be more OL. You can never have too many OL.
2: Kasa has to be the current most valuable commit. After him would be a tie (Simmons, Jackson)
3: I give Dan a solid B++. The remaining 6 scholarships could easily put in the A category.
4: I am most excited about hearing " Buffs have fourth down and short, Nuckols enters the game at fullback…"
 

by AlaBuff on Jan 19, 2009 3:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t been able to quite keep up with the recruiting madness this year, but I would totally agree that the defensive backfield is the area that could use the most help. I know we have a couple guys there and some numbers, but although we generally were ok in that phase last year, there were certain times where the DBs just broke down and flat out couldn’t stop people, even when they had ‘good’ coverage and were in position. I think that is a spot where we need some new blood for sure.

by BVaz on Jan 19, 2009 3:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Commits Buffs cannot afford to lose

I think Hawkins and his staff have done a pretty good job…I’d give them a B+ overall. They’ve done a good job of addressing the three areas in most need…..D line, Wide Receiver, and kicker. My vote for the commits we cannot afford to lose go to Diante Jackson and Grossnickle. We need playmakers real BAD….especially at WR. I’m hoping Jackson is our guy. And as far as kicker is concerned….we’ll never challenge for Big 12 North as long as we miss more FG’s than we make…that’s riduculous.

by Plooch75 on Jan 19, 2009 3:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My take....

1) I agree that the defensive backfield has to be one of the top remaining priorities. I’d like to see at least one solid cover corner added to the class. Cliff Harris would do nicely there, but I doubt we’ll get him. Other than that, get a little more depth on both lines — Chris Freeman at OT and Justin Brown at DT.
2) Kasa, with DJack a very close second.
3) I give them a B. The coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for getting Kasa, and also for continuing to sell their vision when things weren’t looking so good. However, the low number of early commits hurts the overall grade. A winning record in 2009 will help on that front next recruiting cycle.
4) Kasa is without a doubt my favorite commit. I love it that we’re keeping the top in-state players home.

by highlandsbuff on Jan 19, 2009 4:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My take is similar

1) I think CB, DT, OL, and QB would be the main ones, hopefully we can land Blake and have one of the best WR classes ever.

2) I agree Kasa is the biggest one we can’t lose, he makes or breaks this class in my opinion, to be able to land the top recruit in the state three years running is huge, keep building that wall!

3) I think based off last year they are doing average, I would hope that we had more 4* and 5* guys, but I like the quality guys he is getting and I like that we are starting to make inroads to places like Ohio, Texas, and NE schools, would like to see more success with Utah/California/Arizona and Hawaii kids.

4) I don’t like to play favorites but both Kasa and jackson top the list right now.

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by Broncoman on Jan 19, 2009 4:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My Thoughts

1. CornerBack, DL, and OL. I’ve noticed we have started to get more 6’ cornrers vs the 5’7"- 5’9" from the last couple of years.

2. Can’t lose Nuckols, I think he is physical enough to play a lot as a freshman. I am not sure but Kasa looks a little lean, he might need a year or 2 to bulk up. Man he is quick off the snap though. We need a consistant pass rush from the down lineman.

3. It’s still hard to tell if Hawk is still got a chance with alot of higher profile recruits and they will pile on at signing day. Currently I’ll go with C+. Hopefully he and the staff will get a few more recruits like Speedy Stewert, guys that fall through the cracks of the recruiting system but can just play. Physicality needs to be his theme if we are going to compete with the Texas’s and Oklahoma’s of the world.

4. Any young man who wants to be a Buff and can play is my favorite recruit.

by CrazyBuff on Jan 19, 2009 5:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

In my Opinion...

1. Cornerback is undoubtedly our biggest spot to fill

2. McDougald is the one we need to get, Kasa is the guy we can’t lose

3. In my opinion Hawkins is a recruiting God. Sure we could have more 5 or 4 stars but Dan has really mixed talent with character and that’s why I think every visitor comments on our family atmosphere. I AM A HAWKINS BELIEVER

4. My favorite commit is Clark Evans, he brings something that could make us dynamic. Plus, I love when we bring in OC recruits

by buffsnbruins on Jan 19, 2009 5:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Keep It Up

1. Stud QB and lot’s more big slobber knockers for both sides of the line.
2. Can’t lose Kasa.
3. Big improvement over the last eight days, but still room to move up from today’s grade of B.
4. I like them all and look forward to seeing them grow into five star contributors.

by Big Horn Buff on Jan 19, 2009 5:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

2009 CU recruiting so far

1) Secondary should be our top concern. As things stand now, the Buffs don’t look like they can hold up against a Big 12 4-or-5 wide formation. Everybody’s talking about corners (as they should), but we’ve got issues at safety too, especially after losing both starters from last year.

2) We can’t afford to lose WRs Jackson or Simmons.

3) Right now, I’d give recruiting a B. It’s hard to give them anything higher when our recruiting class is barely ranked in the top 60 so far (hopefully that’ll change in the next couple of weeks). That being said, Hawkings and Co. deserve credit for addressing the D-line issue, getting a kicker with potential to make more than 1/2 his kicks, and going after some receivers. All this while coming off a 5-win season.

4) It’s gotta be Kasa. What a great job in landing a guy that could play pretty much wherever he wants. Nuckols is my second-favorite commit so far.

by GoBuffs on Jan 19, 2009 6:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

1) What position is now the new priority #1 with the six or so remaining spots (use the charts after the jump if you need some help)? What is your reasoning and if you have a few players in mind, jot them down?
My number one priority is probably safety and receiver, because that’s where there appears to be the most bang for the buck left, so to speak. Quality> quantity, so I’d rather have a 4* safety or receiver more than a 2* DT, even though DT is probably a bigger need.

Among Bradley McDougald, Bryce Lamb, Terdema Ussery, and Emory Blake, I’d love to see at least two commits. Stan McKay would’ve been huge (he would compete for a nickel back spot immediately), but it looks like he’s headed to Ucla. I’ll also throw Preston King into the mix, who’s better than Orms and can play DB or WR. He doesn’t have an offer yet from CU, but he deserves it.

2) What is the one current commit that the Buffs cannot afford to lose between now and signing day?
Nick Kasa. You just can’t underscore how important a get he was. To have the top ranked player from Colorado decommit from the BCS Champs to stay at home, at the position of our greatest need, is just huge. It’s energizing for the fan base. It was so frustrating to see him in the Army game and have a “Florida” after his name.

3) Grade Dan Hawkins and Co’s recruiting performance for 2009 so far? Have they underachieved, equaled or exceeded your expectations?
eh, I give him a smiley face sticker. Since recruiting is so subjective, I don’t like to assign grades. It looks like he’s addressed major needs, and recruiting seems to be outpacing the performance on the field, which is huge. That’s how you build a program.

It’s also nice to see CU expand their recruiting territory into places like Ohio. When CU was successful in the late 80’s,- early 90’s, CU was great at recruiting SoCal, Texas, and Louisiana. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that teams that were on down cycles at the time were USC, Texas, and LSU. Expanding the map is essential, and it’s paying off.

4) Right now, who is your favorite commit?
My favorite commit is, regardless of what happens going forward, Clark Evans. I’ve been following him for 2 years, and I’ve emailed the coaching staff about him in the past. He played much better than a three star player this year, and most people will tell you that if you pull just about any QB out of the OC, you’re probably in pretty good shape. Just ask USC, Washington, Cal, and Duke.

I fully expect Evans to challenge for Tyler Hansen’s role this year, and he can have the kind of impact on the Buffs that Tebow had in his freshman year. Heck- the Los Al coaches seriously considered using him as a situational pass rusher last year. He’s a stud.

by Hallux Valgus on Jan 19, 2009 6:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

To have the top ranked player from Colorado decommit from the BCS Champs to stay at home, at the position of our greatest need, is just huge.

The timing of the thing is what really blew me away. That he wasn’t seduced by the lure of playing for a team that had just won it’s second title in three years speaks volumes to me.

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by Jon Woods on Jan 20, 2009 8:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just my two cents:

1) QB. It all starts and ends at the QB position and we need a top prospect and a ton of help!
2) All of them. We need all of these guys.

3) Solid B, with the potential to creep into A status. If D. Jackson signs on 2/4, Hawkins will get a solid A.

4) West. I think he is a quintisential sleeper and he looks like a beast. I’m very oroud of Hawkins on this one.

by Buff-in-IL on Jan 19, 2009 6:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

A little off subject but...

I was hearing from some people maybe Brad Bedell, who is a offensive technical intern at CU and former All-American Buffs lineman could be up for the OL Coach. I still say Stan Brock. He could bring something more to this offense.

by Bigbuff44 on Jan 19, 2009 9:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

heard Brad Bedell too

I don’t mind it. think it is important to keep some continuity for the current players and the incoming recruits. I don’t know if Brock would take that big of step down…Bedell would be a fine choice.

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by irish1611 on Jan 19, 2009 9:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bedell?

I sure hopes he focus more on academics as a coach than he did as a student/ athlete.

by Hallux Valgus on Jan 19, 2009 9:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'll admit I know nothing about his focus on academics while he was a buff, perhaps you do :-) but...

I see in another article that the fact that he is “3 courses” shy of his degree is standing in the way of him becomming a coach. It says on his CU bio that he was working on finishing his degree last summer. If he gets hired it should be contingent on him graduating ASAP not only for his credibility with players at a program that requires lots of academic focus by its student athletes, but for his own future if he wants to move up in the college football coaching ranks.

by nebraskasux on Jan 20, 2009 5:48 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts

1. I would really like to see us get some tight ends. I think there a big part of our offense that would serve us well down the line, especially if a spread sorta offense is in our future. Also a stellar QB would be tight, but I have faith in Clark Evans.

2. Absolutely Nick Kasa. That coup to get him to come here turned around this whole recruiting period in my mind, and losing him would turn it back around the bad way.

3. This is a bit harsh, but I say a C+. Don’t get me wrong, i like what we have done so far, and honestly i’m not up enough on the nationwide recruits to really know what else we could have got, but last years class was so stellar I just assumed the class would be top 15 again. But theres still time…

4. Diante Jackson, if he so feels to still come to CU. The thought of the future Jackson, Evans, Smith, Scott, and Stewart offensive attack just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

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by 303buff on Jan 19, 2009 10:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

wow, lots of replies

and lots of new members. very good! I remember when I was always one of the first and one of the few that answered irish’s “poll-type” posts.

1. My two main concerns of D-line and WR seem to be in pretty decent shape (that is if they all end up signing and are eligable) so I guess I would say defensive secondary.

2. Kasa. Not only because he should be a great player but because he is a big name, #1 Colorado player, and we took him away from a top program.

3. I would also say C+. If we hold on to everyone and add a few more good players it could move up to a solid B. Last year was an A, and I would like clases like that every year. I know we are coming off a 5-7 season, but last year we were coming off a 6-7 season! Not much of a difference.

4. Clark Evans. I just get really excited when I picture a big, strong-armed, fast, Tebow-type QB (oh my god, I said the T-word, sorry to all you Tebow haters) running over Big 12 linebackers. Hopefully he gets on the field quickly.

by nebraskasux on Jan 20, 2009 6:03 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

we are definitely moving up in the world!

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by irish1611 on Jan 20, 2009 6:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

1) Well assuming that Diante stays, Simmons qualifies and Ussery commits, we are set at WR. Maybe get another JUCO guy for the immediate future. I still think we need a guy like DT Justin Brown. The more horses, the better. I hope CU will get one or two DL. My picks would have to be Colton Nash and Justin Brown. I am not as worried about the secondary as everyone else is. I would like some depth at safety but I don’t know if that is going to happen in this class. Yes, we will be putting a lot of trust in Mahnke and Perkins but I think they will be fine. If we could get Bradley McDougald, then the Buffs would have Orms, Olatoye and McDougald…I would be happy with that.

2) Tough one. I am an offensive guy. But I also understand the value of getting to the quarterback. Right now, for me, it would have to be Diante Jackson closely followed by Nick Kasa just because I don’t think Kasa is going anywhere. I think Jackson has a chance to be special and the Buffs need playmakers.

3) If the class holds as it stands right now, B. Definitely better than I expected coming off a 5 – 7 season. We need a solid start next year so we can start getting some commits earlier and lock these guys in.

4) Diante Jackson.

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by irish1611 on Jan 20, 2009 6:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

back again

1. Biggest need is another DT or another OL (3 per class, 3 per class!!)
2. Kasa must not leave.
3. Staff gets an A for recruiting, C for gameday management :).
4. Kasa. This team needs a stud pass rusher like a crack addict who hasn’t gotten a fix in 2 weeks!!

by SnowBuff on Jan 20, 2009 8:29 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

It's been a while

1. Would like to see us continue to add to: D-Line, WR & DBs. A great O-line coach is now our biggest need
2. Biggest get would be either Kasa or Edward Nuckols. We desperately need playmakers on the line
3. I’ll give Hawkins a B. After the year we had on the field it is encouraging to see that some talented guys are interested in the Buffs. I also like the fact that many of the recruits have said that the team is “really close” and “like a family.” That comes from the coach.
4 Need to keep Diante Jackson
Also, love the site! First and last thing I check every day.

by CleBUFFS on Jan 20, 2009 10:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Cle

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by irish1611 on Jan 20, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

1. I think that the top priority pretty much has to be finishing off the class with another DE and another CB or ATH/S who can play CB. In the Big XII for the forseeable future it’s going to be about generating a pass rush and turnovers, and after taking no true DEs last year (Pericak notwithstanding) and the lack of playmakers there to start with we’re really hurting there. Just slightly after that need, another OL or DT would be nice.

2. Biggest get has to be Kasa. HAS to be. Not only because he’s at a position of desperate need, but because of the message it sends to in-state kids: top recruits aren’t leaving the state any more. Kasa had every reason to leave, but this staff didn’t let him get away. Now they’ve got to make sure we can still say that the 2nd week of Feb.

3. If you told me this is what the class was going to look like after the WVU game, I’d have said that this is an underperformance. However, given the 5-7 finish they really beat my expectations. It’s hard to grade the staff now for something that is technically unfinished and we won’t have the results on for at least 3 years, I’d give them a B+.

4. As of right now, my favorite commits are the ones that clearly wanted to be buffs. I think that Kasa, Evans, and Nuckols have the potential to be all-timers.

by denver_sc on Jan 20, 2009 1:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My Take

1) I think you can never have enough depth on either line, but it seems like we may have some shaky commits at WR, so bolstering that is a neccesity.

2) Kasa has got to be the most important signing. Especially with him turning down National Champs.

3) Very nice job so far, but still a long way from the USC’s, Florida’s and Oklahoma/Texas’s right now.

4) I would have to say that I am most intrigued by Clark Evans. I like his size and athleticism on tape. But, I am excited for all of them to strap it up as Buffs and then we’ll sort out the favorites.

by DABUFFS50 on Jan 20, 2009 4:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

too hard to decide

and that’s actually an A+ comment.

1) What position is now the new priority #1 with the six or so remaining spots (use the charts after the jump if you need some help)? What is your reasoning and if you have a few players in mind, jot them down?
Pass. Requires homework and thinking. I’ll just copy off everyone else’s work, thanks.

2) What is the one current commit that the Buffs cannot afford to lose between now and signing day?
Kasa represents a lot – renewal of the program, second chances, future, his confidence that CU is the place to be, his national presence, his swagger. Love the guy. But I like the swagger in this class – quite a few guys. Grossnickle is going to make an impact from day one. Considering CU wasn’t even on his original list, this is a bigger coup than folks realize. Don’t know how/where he’ll fit in, but he will light the fire under three other guys and we will have a kicking game to be reckoned with. We NEED a confident kicking game this year. We lose him, we are back to square one. Yeah, I know he’s “just a kicker,” but he could be doing one, two or three jobs for us eventually. Anyone who thinks he gets to redshirt is VERY optimistic on other k/p fronts. And I know Parker Orms isn’t getting a lot of votes, but this is the face of the buffs to me – a kid who played his huge heart and soul to get to Boulder and will work to the bone to give everything to the program. Parker will walk the walk and do whatever it takes to win. There’s a leader like Cody inside Parker, someone that will bring out the best in other players. Diante, if he’s allowed to still a buff, I really want him to stay. Come on, Diante, work your magic on your family. Show them how much you want to be here, cuz we want you. Maybe the outstanding recruits who are committing – kids like Forrest West – will convince your family that Boulder is a great place for you to get an education.

3) Grade Dan Hawkins and Co’s recruiting performance for 2009 so far? Have they underachieved, equaled or exceeded your expectations?
A. Exceeded. I don’t know what I was expecting, but I’ve been blown away about six times so far – thinking, we got that guy? Are you serious? WHO committed? I mean, they have gone above and beyond what our record would indicate we could achieve. Good work.

4) Right now, who is your favorite commit?
Great question, but I wouldn’t want any of these 15 guys to think they weren’t my numero uno. What a great class so far. Seriously we are looking very good for the future. I started to write one name, then another, deleted and wrote a third. Gave up trying to decide on just one. It’s all good.

by JustmyOp on Jan 20, 2009 8:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Ditto on Orms

He’s a player. After watching the 4A championship game I was psyched that he’s going to be a Buff. I think he could be a Bloom-type of punt/kick returner as well as a solid contributor in the secondary.

by highlandsbuff on Jan 20, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn't know much at all about Parker Orms

but since Fox Sports, Comcast channel (or whatever its called) and seemingly 10 other channels have replayed that 4A title game 900 times since it was played I’ve got to see him in action a little. He’s definitely a playmaker and plays with a lot of heart. Obviously he won’t be as dominant in the Big 12 as he was in that game, but he looks exciting.

by nebraskasux on Jan 21, 2009 5:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just Joined : )

1) What position is now the new priority #1 with the six or so remaining spots (use the charts after the jump if you need some help)? What is your reasoning and if you have a few players in mind, jot them down?
- I think another reciever would help us out alot, to solve the lack of playmakers on last year’s roster. We could always use a few more OLine bodies though… And a top notch quarterback, although this doesn’t seem possible this late in the situation.

2) What is the one current commit that the Buffs cannot afford to lose between now and signing day?
Diante Jackson, Nick Kasa, Edward Knuckols. These guys are all big grabs for the program and have great upsides. They should all play next year, too.

3) Grade Dan Hawkins and Co’s recruiting performance for 2009 so far? Have they underachieved, equaled or exceeded your expectations?
The equaled my expectations at this point. With the past few years not going so well record-wise, I was impressed at Hawkins and Co’s list of multiple four star and three star recruits. However, at this stage in the recruiting process we can still make up some lost ground after a slow start.

4) Right now, who is your favorite commit?
I’m most excited about Edward Knuckols, because as AlaBuff said, I am also excited about hearing this: “Buffs have fourth down and short, Nuckols enters the game at fullback…”
Oh Lord, the second coming of the Fridge!
However, I gotta give props to Kasa for sticking with the home crowd : )
I’m also going to say Darrell Scott, even though he’s a year early for this list, because I’ve got MAD respect for his maturity in his College selection and how he is handling adversity for the first time on this level.

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