2009 Big 12 Recruiting As of Dec 22nd - By the Numbers
As you can see from our countdown timer on the left side of the site, signing day is 43 days away. It is truly a great day to be a sports fan as it brings new hope and the possibility of so and so player really being the next big thing. That being said, I decided to put together a chart based off of rivals.com information for ratings for all the Big 12 teams to see how the Buffs and other schools were stacking up. Of course, ratings are one man's opinion and by no means the final say but their is most definitely a reason why the USC's and Florida's of the world are at the top of the list in ratings and usually in a BCS bowl. Anyway, it is something fun to look at as we are nearing the February 4th signing day.
Right now, the Buffs have eight commits with 3* DT Nosa Egaue still a very very soft verbal and 4* WR Andre Simmons still needing to prove that he is eligible academically to attend the University of Colorado. Yes, their is still 43 days and a lot can happen over that time and a lot did happen over that time last year. Coaches can get fired, coaches can change jobs, schools can cool on a kid and the Buffs could sweep them up. But the Buffs are in a middle of a pretty big dry spell since November 16th which was the last day a recruit committed. One month and six days of really stagnant news on the recruiting front while the Buffs have watched their top two priorities, 4* WR Diante Jackson and 4* DT Edward Nuckols, either take more time to think about it and entertain other schools. The fact that Nuckols has Florida calling on him scares the ever living crap out of me. Could Florida really single handily ruin the Buffs defensive line recruiting by taking big Ed and Kasa? They certainly have the power to do so.
But I am not freaking out, nor should you. Freak out time starts Feb 4th at 10 pm. Until then, anything is possible. I mean Rodney Stewart signed on the day last year to no one's knowledge and look what he turned out to be. The Buffs still feel they have a chance at 4* WR Bryce McNeal and have their name in the hat with a few other big dogs. Do I see them landing a ton of 4*? Not really because the wins aren't there but one of the few things Hawkins and Co. have not been a disappointment in is their ability to recruit supposed highly rated players. What they did last year was pretty phenomenal. This year, don't expect a top 15 - 20 class but if Hawkins can get the "Big 2" and guys like S Stan McKay, DE Iatu Tepa, WR Terderma Ussery, one of the two Union High School guys (S Terrell Williams and TE Tracy Moore), DE Colton Nash, maybe a big DL JUCO to support the middle and hold onto Eguae and Simmons, the Buffs might find themselves in the top 30 - 35 which would be adequate. Next year is all about the development of the last two classes that Hawkins has recruited and building enough wins to recruit BIG TIME in 2010, 2011 and 2012.
Defensive line and wide receiver are still a major concern. One must hope that something serious happens to the DL this offseason and one of the unknowns on the roster really blows up because right now, other than possibly Nuckols, I don't see any of the potentials or commits not red-shirting. I think Goree, Obi Cunningham, Herrod and maybe Pericak or Shields can be solid but the pass rush will probably need to come from a linebacker like Brad Jones provided and we all know that wasn't nearly good enough or committed to enough last year. At wide receiver, every Buff fan should write on their Christmas list that Simmons qualifies, Simas stay eligible and Diante Jackson signs and is ready to play. Simmons, Josh Smith and Simas are really the "X" factors, though. If the Buffs could get the trio on track and up to speed, those three guys coupled with McKnight would be a big upgrade. In a perfect world, you would love to redshirt Jackson (if we get him) and get him acclimated, as CU fans now know, highly rated recruits aren't always an immediate slam dunk. A ton of "ifs" in the last couple sentences but in 2009, the Buffs need some luck, in fact, they deserve a lot of luck after went they went through last year.
Here is where the Buffs stand compared to others in the Big 12 as of December 22nd, 2008.
| According to Rivals.com Recruiting | |||||||||||
| Team | The Numbers | The Averages | |||||||||
| North | # of Commits | Rank | # of Off | # of Def | 5* | 4* | 3* or Less | Average Stars | Rank | Offense Avg | Defense Avg |
| Nebraska | 23 | 2 | 11 | 12 | 5 | 18 | 3.17 | 4 | 3.09 | 3.25 | |
| Missouri | 18 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 16 | 3.06 | 5 | 2.88 | 3.22 |
| Kansas | 17 | 8 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 16 | 2.88 | 8 | 2.7 | 3 | |
| Colorado | 8 | 11 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 2.88 | 10 | 3.25 | 2.5 | |
| Iowa State | 16 | 9 | 9 | 7 | 16 | 2.44 | 11 | 2.44 | 2.43 | ||
| Kansas St | 8 | 11 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 2.25 | 12 | 2.25 | 2.25 | ||
| Team | The Numbers | The Averages | |||||||||
| South | # of Commits | Rank | # of Off | # of Def | 5* | 4* | 3* or Less | Average Stars | Rank | Offense Avg | Defense Avg |
| Texas | 19 | 4 | 9 | 10 | 2 | 13 | 4 | 3.89 | 1 | 4.0 | 3.8 |
| Oklahoma | 21 | 3 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 13 | 3.38 | 2 | 3.2 | 3.5 | |
| Texas A&M | 26 | 1 | 10 | 16 | 4 | 22 | 3.12 | 3 | 3.2 | 3.06 | |
| Oklahoma St | 16 | 9 | 6 | 10 | 4 | 12 | 3.13 | 6 | 3.5 | 2.9 | |
| Texas Tech | 18 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 14 | 3.06 | 7 | 3.33 | 2.77 | |
| Baylor | 19 | 4 | 10 | 9 | 3 | 16 | 2.68 | 9 | 3.1 | 2.22 | |
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Numbers correct?
Neither Scout.com nor Rivals.com have Okie State with 4 five star recruits… in fact neither site has them even with one.
by IowaBuffFan on Dec 22, 2008 10:52 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
good catch...just wrong columned it
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by irish1611 on Dec 22, 2008 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that was going to be a bad poll when I put it up
Clark running away with it
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by irish1611 on Dec 22, 2008 12:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Clark, really?
I think having a play maker at WR would make our passing attack more explosive than another true freshman QB. Simmons would be a huge pick-up in that regard. I hope Clark is a stud, but I also hope our existing QB’s are better than a true freshman.
by IowaBuffFan on Dec 22, 2008 2:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Simmons would definitely provide the most impact right away
Evans will just be fun to see because he is huge and can run
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by irish1611 on Dec 22, 2008 3:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell is Texas A & M already have 26 guys
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by Broncoman on Dec 23, 2008 2:10 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Well
I’m going strictly off the Scout.com list of guys, which has 25 commits, 5 * stars, 13 *, and 7 ***, one of whom is a JUCO. Now, from that list, they have 22 guys from the state of Texas, 2 from Louisiana, and 1 from Kansas. Now, with Mike Sherman in rebuilding mode of the Aggies program, he has to be realistic about the guys he recruits. He has to take dead aim at the mid-level kinds of guys, the 3 star kids who aren’t going to be pulling in a lot of elite offers for any number of reasons and the 4 star kids who want to stay close to home. Now, Texas kids love staying in Texas. There’s a sense of state pride unlike any other place I’ve ever lived. Texas kids want to represent Texas. The real question is which of the major programs want them to represent their school colors the most? Texas has the ability to poach the elite talent, take most prospects straight from the top and go for it. What a program like A&M needs to do (and is doing) is to be selective about which of the top kids they focus on and maybe try to steal one or two every year (kind of like Colorado nabbing Scott/Major/Katoa last year) and strengthen the overall talent coming into the program. Once that’s done, you develop your program and try to pump out 8 wins or so a year until the elite talent starts enjoying you whispering into their ear saying “You’re the difference between 8-10 wins and a national championship”. When being recruited by a juggernaut like Texas, they have realize that the competition there will be unlike anything they’ve ever faced before, whereas an elite talent can nestle into a mini spotlight at a good (but not great) program and grow quickly. They feel like they are difference makers, and a place like A&M can showcase how right they really were.
Now, how does that answer how they have 26 guys (and by Scout’s count, 25)? Basically, they’ve targeted a ton of those midlevel players who may have a bigger school calling on them, but not necessarily offering, and have put the full court press on to show how much they are wanted at A&M. As a team being viewed on the rise, the kids start seeing how they could help be part of rebuilding the great Aggie legacy and it makes sense for them to fall in love with all A&M has to offer. It’s not a powerhouse, it’s not a middling team struggling to establish itself (Kansas State, Colorado, Nebraska, Baylor, Iowa State), but it’s a place filled with hopes and Mr. 3 or 4 Star being snubbed by the powerhouses want to prove themselves. As a result…
Hello, Aggieland!
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 23, 2008 5:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Errr
That’s 5 2 stars, 13 3 stars, and 7 4 stars. No idea what I did there. Should make better use of preview button, though.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 23, 2008 5:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Really great stuff
and nice job compiling all of the information.
Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Dec 23, 2008 4:53 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
thanks seth
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by irish1611 on Dec 23, 2008 7:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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