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Beat Down Reaction: Missouri Tigers vs Colorado Buffaloes Review

58 - 0. How do you write a post game reaction to that? Really, how do you? So much for that "its not going to be a 55 - 10 score like last year." Can we officially say this Buffs team is worse than last year?  At least last year we could hang with teams like Texas Tech. This year, we have zero offense and a bad defensive game plan. Remember, this Missouri team was the 100th ranked defense in the nation and the Buffs got 199 yards of total offense, the worst output of the year. Saturday marked the fourth game under 300 yards this year for the Buffs. 300 yards in the Big 12 is usually done in the first half...not for the CU Buffs. Now we are left  to wonder if the Bernard Jackson offense of 2006 better than this offense in 2008, three years into the Dan Hawkins regime? Buffs fans' are looking at coaches like Tim Brewster at Minnesota, David Cutcliffe at Duke, Butch Davis at North Carolina or Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech who right now are in there first, second year or third years at their programs and asking, "why are they having more success than CU." It's the question on everyone's mind and rightfully so. No I am not starting a "fire Dan Hawkins thread" but where is the improvement? Spare me the injury talk or the inexperience talk, the score was 58 - 0 and the Buffs had 199 yards of total offense. At the end of the first quarter the Buffs had -6 yards, at halftime the Buffs had 33 yards and 3 first downs. The Buffs come out on the initial kickoff and squib quick the ball on the opening kickoff, giving Mizzou a 57 yard field goal, quickly following up that gaff with a dropped punt at the Buffs own 4 yard line by our backup punter. It looked as if the only thing the Buffs schemed the entire week of practice for the game was the initial squib kickoff as what was going to seal the deal. A squib kick with a kicker in Jameson Davis who is in the top 5 in touchbacks? Luckily for the coaches, a squib kick decision wasn't need the rest of the way as the Buffs failed to score any points. Where is the coaching right now? The Buffs seem like the make zero adjustments, continually playing zone and not bring pressure (except the Kansas State game where the Buffs won and CU had a great defensive game plan). Your head coach cannot say this on KOA Radio after the game. Inexcusable:

"I did a terrible job of preparing them to play."

 

read the many negatives and a couple positives from yesterday's after the jump...

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Taking a breath now, I know the Buffs are young and I know CU is no where near as talented as Mizzou. This Buffs team is at a serious disadvantage against players like Jeremy Maclin, Chase Daniel, Derrick Washington and Chase Coffman. I was expecting a loss but not of this proportion. I expected the Buffs to push back a little but nothing. My question is in two years from now, do you see this set of players making considerably better plays than they are now? Do you see these coaches, on offense and defense, making considerably better game plans. Maybe you do, I certainly hope so but I question the pride and the preparation of this team to lose to any team 58 - 0. Energy, fire, excitement...no sign of it anywhere. I am searching for bright spots but I am not seeing it. It's depressing when a team shows no emotion or fight in a game. It's depressing that this team has seemingly regressed from last year.

Positives From the Mizzou Game:

  • Uh? The Ralphie Report had a great crowd at the Live Game Thread, 574 comments and some whitty ones at that. It was a free-for-all in the second half. From convincing Missouri fan that CU basketball was going to dominate the Big 12 North to talking about Quin Synder, we had fun in the second half. It's a sad day when that is THE positive.
  • Hey at least Buffs K Aric Goodman didn't miss a field goal. He didn't attempt one either.
  • Win the next two weeks and we will feel good again but it is still a sad feeling that the Buffs seem light years away from competing with Kansas, Missouri, Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State? Not close. I never thought I would say this but the Buffs probably will be underdogs next week to Texas A&M. Who would have thought that. Yes, the Buffs are flirting with being the cellar dweller in the Big 12 this year, especially when averaging 13 points per game the last six games. That isn't going to beat many Big 12 teams.

Negatives From the Mizzou Game:

  • Where do you start? How about 199 yards and 58 - 0? Or -6 yards in the first quarter?  Or Mizzou scored on 10 of 13 drives? Pick your poison.
  • The Buffs 242 consecutive games scoring at least a point is over. Over and done to the 100th ranked defense in the nation. To put this in perspective, coming into this game Missouri allowed 410 yards a game. South East Missouri State got 334 yards against Mizzou and scored.  The Buffs got 199 yards and zero points. 242 games. That's close to 20 years of college football games down the drain. EMBARRASSING. 
  • CU gave up 491 yards on defense and continually settled for three-man rushes and no blitzes to try and get pressure on Daniel. Maybe the most frustrating part of the game was the soft coverage. Three-man rushes and an eight man ZONE. Not acceptable. When has this ever worked for a team? How soft was the coverage early in the game on Jeremy Maclin? It is like we didn't even prepare for the Maclin-Coffman threat. You think we would have someone shadowing Maclin or at least keeping an eye on him. Nothing. One of the worst coached defensive games I have seen other than the Denver Broncos.There is no adjustments being made right now and it is frightening. The Buffs come in with plan A and no plan B. Unfortunately plan A is easily beatable.
  • Special teams was awful again. Squib kickoff, muffed kickoff return, short punts, dropped punt snap on the five yard line. You name it, the Buffs have messed it up on special teams this year. I am sorry but special teams coach Kent Riddle should have a very short leash right now.
  • The Buffs got owned on both lines. No power in this team right now. CU runs an offense that doesn't help the youth of this team. The Buffs don't line up in a "I" formation and run straight ahead. This offense is not working in the Big 12.
  • The use of play makers. It is becoming a broken record on this board. No effort to get the ball to WR Josh Smith. RB Rodney Stewart must have gotten hurt with only six carries. No screen passes to losen up a defense, no quick passes on a quick drop to get the offense in a rhythm. Plays take forever to develop. This Buffs offense operates in a 10 yard by 10 yard box that has no stretch. Why would a defense even worry about the deep ball.
  • RT Nate Solder got eaten alive this week. He had a tough matchup with Stryker Sulak. No 99% grade this week. He has a long way to go.The whole team has a long way to go.
  • CU averaged 1.2 yards a carry. No blocking up front.
  • A former Buff player said this loss was worse than the Texas 70 - 3 loss a few years ago because of how flat this team came out. I agree. CU was lifeless.
  • Your coach says this:

"I did a terrible job of preparing them to play."

Initial reactions. But the Buffs have two winnable games against Texas A&M and Iowa State the next couple of weeks. This is the only two winnable games the Buffs have left on the schedule and the only games to make this year savagable. Need to win next week.

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Very annoying game

The only part where I would disagree with you would be that we only have 2 winnable games left. I think all of our remaining games are winnable. Not saying we WILL win all of them (or even 2 of them) but I think we at least have a chance in all of them (more than I could say about tonight’s game). I guess I need to have some optimism for the rest of the season.

Yes, this team is worse than last years team, and right now the offense is definitely worse than it was in 2006. That is probably the most disturbing thing about this team, I have no doubt that we should be better. I think we should fire Dan Hawkins and hire Quin Snyder as coach.

You gotta admit, he looks great in black and gold (I won’t let the whole Snyder thing die).

by nebraskasux on Oct 25, 2008 10:55 PM MDT   0 recs

Quin Snyder as a football coach...

that really gave me a good laugh…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

To call it embarassing is an understatement

I had such high hopes going into the season but looking back at our 4-4 record it is very misleading. This is a 3-9 team at best and as an alum I find it completely unacceptable. I am really questioning Hawk’s extension at this point. There has been little to no improvement in the three years he has been at the university. While I understand its not an overnight process if there isn’t significant improvement next year then I think as a school you has to start looking elsewhere. I mean hell isn’t Lloyd Carr still available? or Tommy Bowden There are big names out there that can recruit and have represented football programs that take themselves seriously. Looking at the continued success at Boise State you have to wonder if there wasn’t something else going on there.

by NYCskibum on Oct 26, 2008 7:32 AM MDT   0 recs

Yes, it was ugly...

… but I don’t know that another coach could come in and make magic happen with the team we have on the field. What makes you think Lloyd Carr would want to come to Boulder?

I’m not sure calling for Hawks’ head is the answer. There is a lot of blame to go around.
I’m going to wait out the rest of the season with dimishing but still high hopes that we’ll see SOME improvement.

by JustmyOp on Oct 26, 2008 9:28 AM MDT   0 recs

What makes you think he wouldn’t?

All I am trying to say is that the results we have seen to date are completely unacceptable and there are enough coaches available that would give the program instant credibility. I’m not asking for hawk’s head I just don’t want him to think he can make a career of .500 seasons at CU either.

The problem is the talent is there to stick it to teams like Eastern Washington, CSU, KSU and Texas A&M but its not happening. But its not happening. Blame it on youth or whatever you want but if next year is another 5-7 or 6-6 season its time to look elsewhere.

by NYCskibum on Oct 26, 2008 5:50 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont like a poor winner

Granted CU got throttled from the start. But IMO Pinkel showed little class when he reinserted his starters on defense to get a stop late. FIne, but people like that will get their comeuppance soon enough. CU may be down right now but I hope next season they kick the crap out of them. I will be rooting hard for KU to kick their tail at the end of the season. I dont mind that CU was overmatched and outcoached. But to show an utter lack of class is unacceptable.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 26, 2008 3:50 PM MDT   0 recs

I can understand maybe being upset that Chase was in for the 1st drive of the 4thQ

But being upset that Pinkel put back in Defensive starters to preserve a shutout? How can you possibly get upset about that? It’s not like Hawkins had his 3rd stringers in there. Was Missouri supposed to LET Colorado score? It was Missouri’s first conference shutout since 1986, were they supposed to not want that?

“Little Class” would be putting back in the starters after DeVion Moore’s TD run so we could break 60.

You asking Pinkel to keep his 2nd string to make it easier for CU to score is pretty embarrassing for CU, in my opinion. You’re welcome to root however you want for the remaining games, I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it, but I really, really, hope you’re just desperate for something to complain about that doesn’t involve the Buffs, because that’s pretty a pretty pathetic complaint.

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 4:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

you know

I dont really care what you have to say about it. It was over and he needed to get his liitle overrated team some confidence. Fine enjoy your win cuz frankly I am correct about my assertion. It just shows that come over here to try and refute what I said and failed miserably. O well, dont care and sure wont lose any sleep over your foolish retort

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 26, 2008 4:33 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think it's a confidence issue

when you’re already winning by 50+ points. It’s a question of making sure that the team gets the prize that they deserve, rather than having the 2nd stringers screw up all the hard work by allowing a garbage-time TD.

Personally, I believe that any coach in the nation would have done the same thing.

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 4:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Now

if Mizzou loses a starter in game up by 50 just to perserve a shutout that would be so foolish.
I dont believe any team would do that. I see a lot of USC down here, Carroll never brings in his starters to perserve a shut out or anything like that. When SC was playing Wash St he was subbing in 2-3-4th stringers. Whats more important getting younger guys experience or a shutout

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 26, 2008 5:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

At that point, for us? The Shutout.

We had been giving our 2nd stringers PT, (also got lots of PT against Nebraska, too), so that’s not an issue. Besides, after the beat-down that Texas gave us, we needed practice against an Offense that was playing in a high-pressure situation. Middle of the 3rd, that wasn’t high-pressure. 2-minute offense, that was.

The injury question goes both ways (and proves to illustrate my point). What if Hawkins had lost a starter due to injury in the last 2 minutes of that game? Just to put meaningless points on the scoreboard to keep there from being a shutout? If it was important for you all to avoid the shutout, why is it hard to see that it was important for our guys to GET the shutout?

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 5:21 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

And, by the way, WoodrowWilson's comment in pre-game links

Referring to MU’s team as “Clowns” because DeArmond used a cheesy, homer line in his article:

Ooohhh…I am scared. How much would you like to beat these clowns just so I can see this guys reaction?:

After what has happened to Missouri on consecutive Saturdays perhaps the worst thing to be just now is a Colorado Buffalo.

    “The team goals are friggin’ out the window,” said Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel. "It’s do-or-die time.

    …….

    Because of that — if things go the way Missouri coach Gary Pinkel intends — it is the Buffaloes who may be on the list of endangered species.

That “clowns” comment was sitting in my head the entire time I sat in Faurot and made me smile even more. Thank you, for that extra little bit of enjoyment, Woodrow. Hope you enjoyed the game as much as I did!

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 4:24 PM MDT   0 recs

And, I apologize, this reads like drive-by post-game smack talk

which I hate.

But, I had to respond to the “poor winner” comment, and figured since I was here, I might as well get the other off my chest.

I sincerely wish CU the best of luck for the rest of the season. I like Hawkins, and really hope to see you guys turn it around. Especially since the other options to help turn around the North are offensive (Nebraska, KU, K-State) or impossible (Iowa State). I would certainly enjoy MU and Colorado fighting it out for North supremacy in coming years, much more than any of the other teams.

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 4:32 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

it was my post....Woodrow just reposted. Clowns more of a description of the writer but whatever, he was right I was wrong

glad to see that the cockiness is back after the two losses. Glad you got a chuckle out of it and that our little post on our little blog was on your mind during the game Saturday night. Enjoy the rest of the year.

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by irish1611 on Oct 26, 2008 4:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, as a regular reader of RockMNation

comments made on the SBNation blog of our immediate opponent was on my mind during the game.

Clearly, I must have misunderstood the intent of the comment, if it was directed toward DeArmond. He is laughable in how much of a homer he is, I will agree with you about that.

Sincerely, good luck to you the rest of the year.

I juggle one handed, do some magic tricks and do the best imitation of myself.

Ben Folds Five

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2008 4:49 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Dear Andy,

Please don’t talk sh1t about something I didn’t write. It means “posted by” not “written by”.

Thanks,
Woodrow

The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics

by WoodrowWilson on Oct 26, 2008 5:07 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

haha

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by irish1611 on Oct 26, 2008 5:15 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

sooners 21 point favorites over the Corn

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by irish1611 on Oct 26, 2008 5:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Now do you guys dislike Missouri as much as I do???

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Oct 26, 2008 5:55 PM MDT   0 recs

Yes

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by irish1611 on Oct 27, 2008 11:15 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

big time

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 27, 2008 3:11 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

you really must!

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by irish1611 on Oct 27, 2008 3:43 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

a little too arrogant

for a program that doesnt have a history of succeding, especially one that hasnt won an outright conference title since 1960 or shared one since 1969.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 27, 2008 4:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

On the comparison to the Texas game...

I totally agree with this and that is actually the first thing that came to mind. I was at the Texas game when we lost 70-3, and we were at least fighting a little bit in the first half and maybe kept up hope for a bit of the first quarter, but in this game, there was absolutely no fight and no energy. This is the ultimate lowest point of our program ever I think, way more than the 42-3 and 70-3 OU and Texas games, even moreso than the 19-10 Clemson bowl game trainwreck I sat through a few years ago right after the Texas game.
I am usually not a doomsday kind of guy on losses like this, but I cannot ever remember a worse loss for our team, even in the 2 win year. They need to light a fire under all of the coaches and the players and they need to show some damn pride and actually try to win a football game. There is no award for attendance at a football game. You don’t win a prize by simply not forfeitting the game. Pathetic.

by BVaz on Oct 27, 2008 8:52 AM MDT   0 recs

And one more thing...

Can we also go ahead and give up on Goodman at this point? If Hawk isn’t even going to put him out there then why is he on the team? (and why does he have a scholarship again? ugh) If Texas Tech can find some kicker out of the stands why can’t we do that. Out of our entire student population there has to be at least ONE person who can hit a field goal.

by BVaz on Oct 27, 2008 9:09 AM MDT   0 recs

Yes, I have given up on him Time to bring in the East kicker or Creek kicker from Denver.

Or try Jameson Davis back there. It cant get any worse

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by irish1611 on Oct 27, 2008 11:15 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

One of the worst coached games I have ever seen

I am not ready to give up on coach Hawkins, but man," It’s DIvision I football, go play intermurials brother!" I think I could of gotten an intermurial team from CU to play better than that. It really looks like there was no game plan. I think Hawk needs to quit trying to run the spread, we don’t have the players to do it, QB, OL, or WR, he needs to look at the talent on offense (RB) and play to that strength, go to a power I, hell I would even take going back to a wishbone at this point. On defense, again the strength is in the LB corps, with only running 3 guys up to the line, it plays against the strength, the LB need to be rushing the QB and coming at different angles, playing them in zone does nothing for them.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Oct 27, 2008 10:47 AM MDT   0 recs

Excellent point about the spread

That hadn’t really occurred to me but I think you make a good point. The spread is not working. We do not have the players to execute it, especially not at QB. It will be interesting to see where Hawk goes with the offense from here also. I think we need to stop the 2 QB system and just let Hansen go through his growing pains at this point. Cody had a couple of alright plays in the game, but his arm once again is nonexistent, and if we’re scoring zero points anyway, go ahead and make the full switch. And in conjunction with that I say simplify the offense and let’s look at ways to run a play not out of the shotgun for a change. We are almost like Auburn at this point (though obviously much worse) in that they keep trying to run the spread to worse and worse results.

by BVaz on Oct 27, 2008 11:04 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

well said, they were very premature and overly optimistic when

installing the spread. Now with the injuries it was time to adopt a more power game but no adjustments. I am definitely not calling for Hawks head but next season better be light years better than this year. And I really dont know if that is going to happen.

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by irish1611 on Oct 27, 2008 11:14 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Seems to me that if you want to win the Big12...

the secret would be…discovering how to stop the spread…the first guy that does this wins!!

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by Denverjhawk on Oct 27, 2008 12:50 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

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